Hello all. Are there any cat lovers/experts here?
We are settling in two cats we adopted from a local shelter. Does anyone have any tips for helping them settle in?
We kept them in one room on the first day, but they seemed quite confident so last night we let them have the run of the house. They seemed to be doing very well but now the male seems to have become quite shy and has hidden away. He looks a bit depressed. He slept on our bed last night, and was happy to eat his breakfast, so it might be that we are just worrying too much. It must be a very stressful time for them both though.
We will be keeping them indoors for the first month, but does anyone have any advice about helping them to settle? How did your cats settle in if you adopted cats?
Thanks
Tim & Lene
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I thought Louis was playing it very safe tonight. He told every act they were very good, without giving any real critique or advice.
I wish he had left the show, as he has lost all authority and respect.
Yes Shane did well tonight, I was amazed he could sign at such a high pitch. He has been a bit dull some weeks though.
I wish he had left the show, as he has lost all authority and respect.
Yes Shane did well tonight, I was amazed he could sign at such a high pitch. He has been a bit dull some weeks though.
I remember when I was a teenager, my dad used my computer, and not only did he discover a porn pic, he managed somehow, despite being a total newbie to computers, to accidently set the picture as the desktop wallpaper.
He then had to unplug and guard the PC until I could come home and repair the damage.
It was all very very embarrassing.
He then had to unplug and guard the PC until I could come home and repair the damage.
It was all very very embarrassing.
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lets have a poll...we wanna see what the top guys look like....
if they refuse.....we send angel chat round to sort em :shock::D :D
Maybe the Symbios boys could appear on the 2006 SH calendar. I would actually quite like to see a pic of Mrs Martin in her ridding boots ! ! !
8-) 8-)Some ringtone companies, those operating premium rate services, have in the past behaved badly, poor pricing information, misleading advertising. Symbios have NOT been involved in this. Actually quite the opposite, but I think that is where the bad reputation relating to rintgtones comes from.
I should say that this is only some premium rate companies, there are lots of very honest companies in the business.
I should say that this is only some premium rate companies, there are lots of very honest companies in the business.
I must confess I have today felt some peer pressure not to raise my concerns.
I know that we do not post here very often, we use the photo ads more than the forum, and so we are not really a part of the SH community, at least not in the same way as those here that post and attend munches etc, but we are concerned.
Lets not jump too hard on people who are raising their concerns.
I know that we do not post here very often, we use the photo ads more than the forum, and so we are not really a part of the SH community, at least not in the same way as those here that post and attend munches etc, but we are concerned.
Lets not jump too hard on people who are raising their concerns.
Are we allowed to make suggestions here?
How about an adult buy and sell part so we can sell all the stuff that ebay won't let you
Shaz x
Yes we would be very keen on that idea. I think there was some silly court juddgement that might make it harder to sell adult DVDs online, but other things could be traded. This could be open to scams though.
We are both soft swingers, so for us it would be great if the new version of SH could have an ads category for soft swingers.
The last point to cover was made that we promote pictures to single men to join etc, this is not the case because of what is above. If you can validate your statement we would investigate it.
Martin
Martin, if you like I can send you a list of URLs supporting this. I think you would call them mirror sites. These include some mirror sited, connecting the site to 'escorts'. This was I believe just an attempt to pull in visitors from google, but it is the kind of thing I wouldn't like on Swinging Heaven. It would be unnecessary and would change the atmosphere here.
I will post the URLs on a separate message. I am not sure if this is allowed, but if so they can be deleted.
I have sent the link to the other swingers site run by symbios via PM. I should point out that I have previously seen other start pages to this group. The link I am sending via pm is the main front page. But they have other front pages hidden away, which they tag to keywords on google. They basically use different front pages depending on who they want to attract.
If you are a guy searching for naughty pics on google, that is not the best front page to link to, so they use something a bit more seedier.
I will see if I can find some of these.
If you are a guy searching for naughty pics on google, that is not the best front page to link to, so they use something a bit more seedier.
I will see if I can find some of these.
We found one of the other Swingers Sites run by Symbios, and it was not good news. (Thanks to Evie)
We were a member of this site for a while, but gave up because of the frustrations of needing to be a paid up member to really properly use the service. I know this is not quite what they want to do here, but we did have these concerns about the site :
1) It promotes members pics in a 'swingers gallery'. Which it then promotes through all sorts of keyword links on google, as more or less porn pics. I don't think most people here would be overly happy if the pics they posted on their ads were then put into a gallery, and matched up with all sorts of keywords on google, aimed at horny men.
2) It isn't clear when you sign up for free membership what you can and can't do. It is only once you have taken the time to load up your information, write your profile etc, that you learn that you need to be a paid up member to properly use the service. You then end up with a site full of innactive free members, who never return after filling in their initial profile, once they realise they need to pay.
Our request (and we can only make a request) is that when Swinging Heaven is revamped, that the site is promoted as something for those interested in Swinging, and not on the basis that you can see lots of porn pics of real couples. Secondly we would also like it to be 100% clear to potential members, before they sign up what they will and won't be able to access for free. By this we mean not hidden away in terms and conditions.
This site has become the best of the Swingers sites in the UK, without the need for tricks, so although the site will now be aimed at making a profit, it would be great if the way it was promoted would remain honest and clear. Lets make it about swinging, and not the free pics.
If anyone wants to see a link for the site just send us a PM. We know this site belongs to Symbios, as it displays their company address in the contact area.
Tim & Lene
We were a member of this site for a while, but gave up because of the frustrations of needing to be a paid up member to really properly use the service. I know this is not quite what they want to do here, but we did have these concerns about the site :
1) It promotes members pics in a 'swingers gallery'. Which it then promotes through all sorts of keyword links on google, as more or less porn pics. I don't think most people here would be overly happy if the pics they posted on their ads were then put into a gallery, and matched up with all sorts of keywords on google, aimed at horny men.
2) It isn't clear when you sign up for free membership what you can and can't do. It is only once you have taken the time to load up your information, write your profile etc, that you learn that you need to be a paid up member to properly use the service. You then end up with a site full of innactive free members, who never return after filling in their initial profile, once they realise they need to pay.
Our request (and we can only make a request) is that when Swinging Heaven is revamped, that the site is promoted as something for those interested in Swinging, and not on the basis that you can see lots of porn pics of real couples. Secondly we would also like it to be 100% clear to potential members, before they sign up what they will and won't be able to access for free. By this we mean not hidden away in terms and conditions.
This site has become the best of the Swingers sites in the UK, without the need for tricks, so although the site will now be aimed at making a profit, it would be great if the way it was promoted would remain honest and clear. Lets make it about swinging, and not the free pics.
If anyone wants to see a link for the site just send us a PM. We know this site belongs to Symbios, as it displays their company address in the contact area.
Tim & Lene
Evie,
You are right, they do seem to have experience with other swinging sites.. Elliott said as follows last night :
Martin,
Could we ask what other Swinging Sites you have been involved in. Of course we appreciate what you have done with other sites might not be want you want to do here, but it would be very interesting for us to have a look.
I think it usually breaks forum rules to mention other swinging sites. Mods is it ok in these unusual circumstances?
Tim & Lene
You are right, they do seem to have experience with other swinging sites.. Elliott said as follows last night :
Ok im not exactly sure what happend, i left my pc for an hour for dinner!
kbuk - you couldn't be further from the truth. We are not just a 'fucking ringtone company', we run a LOT of other dating and swinging sites, and yes i do care about the people here, and no we are not here to fleece money at all.
Martin,
Could we ask what other Swinging Sites you have been involved in. Of course we appreciate what you have done with other sites might not be want you want to do here, but it would be very interesting for us to have a look.
I think it usually breaks forum rules to mention other swinging sites. Mods is it ok in these unusual circumstances?
Tim & Lene
Martin & Elliot,
The mischevious part of me is thinking that if you want to make money from the site, why not charge the single guys to access the photo ads and give free premium membership to everyone else.
This is an unpopular thing to say, but it might help sort out some of the imbalances in who uses the photo ads part of the site. At the moment there are a LOT of single guys, compared to the number of couples/single females advertising for them.
Oh, do we get an invite to the Symbios Xmas party.
The mischevious part of me is thinking that if you want to make money from the site, why not charge the single guys to access the photo ads and give free premium membership to everyone else.
This is an unpopular thing to say, but it might help sort out some of the imbalances in who uses the photo ads part of the site. At the moment there are a LOT of single guys, compared to the number of couples/single females advertising for them.
Oh, do we get an invite to the Symbios Xmas party.
:roll: :roll:A few people have asked who the company is that has purchased this site.
Maybe I am wrong, but I think it is a requirement of the E-Commerce Directive / Electronic Commerce Regulations 2002 that this information has to be included on the site.
The UK version states as follows :
"6. - (1) A person providing an information society service shall make available to the recipient of the service and any relevant enforcement authority, in a form and manner which is easily, directly and permanently accessible, the following information -
(a) the name of the service provider;
(b) the geographic address at which the service provider is established;
(c) the details of the service provider, including his electronic mail address, which make it possible to contact him rapidly and communicate with him in a direct and effective manner;
(d) where the service provider is registered in a trade or similar register available to the public, details of the register in which the service provider is entered and his registration number, or equivalent means of identification in that register;"
When they refer to 'information society service' that they mean businesses operating on the web, which a commercial version of Swinging Heaven would most definately be.
I am only mentioning this as I am really curious to find out who the new company is. Come on Elliott, tell tell tell.
Maybe I am wrong, but I think it is a requirement of the E-Commerce Directive / Electronic Commerce Regulations 2002 that this information has to be included on the site.
The UK version states as follows :
"6. - (1) A person providing an information society service shall make available to the recipient of the service and any relevant enforcement authority, in a form and manner which is easily, directly and permanently accessible, the following information -
(a) the name of the service provider;
(b) the geographic address at which the service provider is established;
(c) the details of the service provider, including his electronic mail address, which make it possible to contact him rapidly and communicate with him in a direct and effective manner;
(d) where the service provider is registered in a trade or similar register available to the public, details of the register in which the service provider is entered and his registration number, or equivalent means of identification in that register;"
When they refer to 'information society service' that they mean businesses operating on the web, which a commercial version of Swinging Heaven would most definately be.
I am only mentioning this as I am really curious to find out who the new company is. Come on Elliott, tell tell tell.
Tequila is my enemy, it seems to get me the next day. The worst time resulted in me suddenly feeling very sick on the tube the following day and vomiting in front of a crowd at Tooting Broadway Station. At least I made it out of the station though.
Oh the shame!!!
I've noticed the hangovers seem to get worse as I get older. When I was a student, I did get hangovers, but nothing near a 6. Now, more than five pints down the pub can leave me like a zombie the following day.
This is Tim btw, I don't want Lene to be included in my shame.
Oh the shame!!!
I've noticed the hangovers seem to get worse as I get older. When I was a student, I did get hangovers, but nothing near a 6. Now, more than five pints down the pub can leave me like a zombie the following day.
This is Tim btw, I don't want Lene to be included in my shame.
It is not possible to be charged at such a high tarif on either Premium Rate or 070 numbers. This is quite a common urban myth that goes around.
If you are very concerned report it to ICSTIS..
You can register with the telephone preference service as well, but they are not very good at enforcing their regulations, so many companies especially, the dodgy ones will simply ignore them.
If you are very concerned report it to ICSTIS..
You can register with the telephone preference service as well, but they are not very good at enforcing their regulations, so many companies especially, the dodgy ones will simply ignore them.
We are both Roman Catholic, but neither of us follow our religion very closely. We do have an old friend who has become a priest, but you won't be surprised to hear that we haven't suggested a threesome to him.
The Catholic church in our opinion has such harmfull ideas relating to homosexuality and contraception that we just can't take it seriously when it comes to sex.
The Catholic church in our opinion has such harmfull ideas relating to homosexuality and contraception that we just can't take it seriously when it comes to sex.
I'm not sure if this is accurate, but the following site advises that you need to report the call to the police, before your mobile company can help.
At the moment you are probably having little success getting through the wall of customer service people, who may not be very well trained. The police hopefully will have direct contacts with people within your mobile phone company, who are familiar in dealing with this and might be able to supply the information. They are unlikely to give this jerks number to you as, despite the nature of the call I think it might still fall under data protection.
Although its a lot of hassle it might be worth pursuing this by going to the police as this guy is probably scaring other women out there.
Telephone networks will know someones CLI even if they chose to hide it from the person they are calling.
I used to work in telecoms regulation (although not this area) and the networks I dealt with had records of who had called numbers on their network.
At the moment you are probably having little success getting through the wall of customer service people, who may not be very well trained. The police hopefully will have direct contacts with people within your mobile phone company, who are familiar in dealing with this and might be able to supply the information. They are unlikely to give this jerks number to you as, despite the nature of the call I think it might still fall under data protection.
Although its a lot of hassle it might be worth pursuing this by going to the police as this guy is probably scaring other women out there.
Telephone networks will know someones CLI even if they chose to hide it from the person they are calling.
I used to work in telecoms regulation (although not this area) and the networks I dealt with had records of who had called numbers on their network.
We had to look tautology up in the dictionary. As for the specific questions, I think thats just my (Tim's) style, I used to have jobs where I had to obtain a lot of information by letter, so I do tend to ask the same question in various different ways sometimes.
Thank you for referring us to previous posts, the reason for the question is simply that we have wondered if we should tell friends, and were curious what more experienced people did.
Thank you for referring us to previous posts, the reason for the question is simply that we have wondered if we should tell friends, and were curious what more experienced people did.
Hello all,
Please accept our apologies if this has been discussed before, but we were wondering does everyone here keep their swinging lifestyle a secret? Is this something that your friends know about? Or have your friends, work colleagues etc found out what you are up to? We haven't told friends, so it sometimes feels like we are leading a bit of a double life.
For those that have told friends how did they react?
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Please accept our apologies if this has been discussed before, but we were wondering does everyone here keep their swinging lifestyle a secret? Is this something that your friends know about? Or have your friends, work colleagues etc found out what you are up to? We haven't told friends, so it sometimes feels like we are leading a bit of a double life.
For those that have told friends how did they react?
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