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duncanlondon
Over 90 days ago
Straight Male, 46
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Is this a swingers site or what!!!![/quote
Its the new sex
Doggers in the summer
Loggers in the winter!!!!!!
If its one of those efficient burners, most of the fuel is burnt up and there is the minimum of smoke. But you will always get some smoke. Seasoned ash will burn the best. You will most likely have to search for log suppliers near to you and get in a supply ahead of when you need it. So be thinking years not days. Otherwise its expensive.
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lol you dont now admin well enough then hehehehe

well if they are that good maybe you can get them to run up a few doors for me. size 80x30 and 78x28
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I can understand why people are not happy about this.
Anyone can zoom into the front page and see reasonably good images. Enough to recognise someone you already know in many cases.
Along with some clever photo processing software it could be quite easy to build up a collection of photos.
And were they ever asked?
Slightly worrying for some.........

Maybe it is, BUT then it comes down, to those that want to show and those that dont. IF you dont want your pic seen.. DONT place it on the net.. ITs honestly that simple. Admin have set the site up.. So that you can hide pics, away and only invite those you want them to see. Why not use what admin have given you, If you dont like well then... i believe the door is some where over thee >>>>> ... or was it there <<<<<< Either way it comes down to common sense..
There are no doors on the internet......
I can understand why people are not happy about this.
Anyone can zoom into the front page and see reasonably good images. Enough to recognise someone you already know in many cases.
Along with some clever photo processing software it could be quite easy to build up a collection of photos.
And were they ever asked?
Slightly worrying for some.........
People still need to experience these fundamental feelings.
Take lust for example. Swinging couldn't exist without it.
Its looks like you needed to say that. And seems like a well reasoned thought. Didn't you feel the tiniest bit of accomplishment and pride in doing so?
I think most motivations originate from the passions of the deadly sins such as pride, greed, envy etc. they are often seen as bad, but can in fact produce achievements as well.
I think you need to be allowed to feel such fundamental emotions for an appropriate period, but not to let them develop into the things we all fear and despise.
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I suppose a series of 'free' chat rooms could have been set up, for the use of those interested. Thus kettling them into an area that doesn't interfere with the normal running of the site.
Perhaps that would have made this issue, a non issue.

If your saying free trial chat rooms just for non members only that wouldent work as it wouldent give them an idea of the site at all. Just a bunch of newbies going hey what to each other lol If you mean chat rooms specifically for non members on a permanent basis then dont think that will work either as people who only or mostly use chat will let memberships expire and use the free one.
Wasent sure exactly what you meant.
well it could work in that they would all be newbies together and all starting at the same point. Often newbies in the 'full time' forums take a while to get started when they see all the stuff that goes on.
The forums can be read without being a member so in that way they get to see what goes on. But obviously to participate they need to join.
I suppose a series of 'free' chat rooms could have been set up, for the use of those interested. Thus kettling them into an area that doesn't interfere with the normal running of the site.
Perhaps that would have made this issue, a non issue.
in some ways this (if it does develop into a reasonable discussion) scratches the underbelly of what people get from swinging. ie how much do you allow yourself pleasure and how much do you think you should allow your partner. is one dependent on the other?
Its still possible to be let down or set up, by either the feckless or the devious. The thing is to have an alternative to go onto, so you can still have fun. Just don't leave yourself stranded.
along with not coercing your partner into doing things they are not comfortable with.....
I thought that swinging offered the opportunity to actually improve or enhance one's sexual experiences with others who do have that special interest or skill. that you and your partner are of that share and share alike mentality?
Does that also mean that you would seek to prevent the other players from giving your partner a memorable experience?
the rules seem to work for each couple, but how do they work when swinging? There seems to be an incongruity going on here?
moving onto predictions ..............
before i die:
there will be a foodstuff in a form in which both humans and animals will eat. and prepare at the same time to save on the washing up. real food will be an expensive and rare thing.
children will run global corporations, for a few years until they grow up.
medicines will be created which taken once will last a lifetime. you will be able to choose how they control your thoughts and feelings. want to get through a life of poverty and still feel happy? take the pill now.
war will be fought in desolate areas and become a sport, a bit like a chess ladder.
don't wear underpants. your bollocks need to cool down, heat up, expand and retract at their own will. regard them as your two extra brains.
underpants are for women not men.
your virility and fertility will assume its rightful performance and you won't have any problems. that is unless you have a serious underlying condition.
Well I think that in most cases it is down to how committed and convinced you feel within yourself that you are what you do. in which case you can say with great confidence that you are bi. You believe what you do and you are a happy bunny.
But in other cases of temporary involvement, or incidents brought on; to a certain extent by going with the crowd, its probably not so committing. afterwards you may feel you might want to shake it off instead of relishing in it.
But often what defines hetero and gay is what they don't do. And each has a well established culture to support this. Whereas with bi it is less so as one is open to both sexes. its culture is more subtle.
So perhaps when people are using ads they are just casting out ground bait and waiting for a bite.
Well that brings in another look at the world of bi. Is the outcome of a meet a homosexual action or bi/hetero? Also what is its intention?
For example is a TV gang bang a bi action or is it homosexual? It probably provisions for both, whilst the intentions of either are private. i think it caters for a higher percentage of heteros who are willing to perform homosexual acts. But may not arouse the required interest for committed gays.
And in sheer numbers the majority of ordinarily hetero men will go on to perform sex with men under the umbrella of bi, but would not consider it, if its intended as homosexuality. this is a more observable aspect of adult sexual behaviours. perhaps some of the women can come forward and demonstrate their insight into how women conduct their bi sex lives, as it seems they don't charge about quite so obviously as we men.
So again lots of mixed thoughts and feelings at play. But its fun and it's okay if it stays in the right place.
i think having a play about with the same sex in passing, is often down to high spirits and loss of inhibition, at that time. but in order to have any constancy in being bi one would need to require the presence of own and opposite sex, at the outset of any encounter. if one is to remain loyal to the type.
but quite often an encounter involves selective and structured partnering, and is not always a fully interchangeable action. and then it reverts to the classic threesome of partner sharing. and you could say that it was not really a bi event.
But I think its all you can ask for. To ask for a gay to participate in a predominantly hetero scenario doesn't quite make sense. perhaps a gay could well participate, but would it qualify as a bi encounter?
bi is just the shortest way of saying, 'yes folks, i do have sex with either and or both sexes as and when it suits me or whenever i am lucky enough to get it, but i may or may not expect it or make provision for it; on the basis of the above; but would gladly welcome it, help organise it and participate in it'.
Firstly everyone else has done what you are doing, so they know how you feel. There's likely to be others on their first time also.
there will be groups of people about which a real social hubbub is going on. they are doing well swinging and improving friendships.
there will be some of the older generations and several individuals.
Mingle and talk and settle in.
People will be watching you even if nothing seems likely to happen. You may need to attend a club a few more times so that people remember you.
sexual offers tend to come in the form of people presenting themselves in front of you or up close to you. Its usually quite obvious as they hold a stare at you or get caught under your feet so to speak. You may not be aware until they have you in their sites. So quite often your first reaction is one of wariness as you may feel 'hunted down'.
At that point you just need to get closer and see the reaction. you may not even need to talk or try on any conventional chat ups.
After the fun's ended, its expected you go about your separate ways. Sometimes that's easy, others its not. But that's the nature of swinging.
well, go back a couple of decades and if women had sex in a 'recreational' way, the expression was that 'they went lezzie', albeit for the duration of the experience.
But in order to avoid the distinction of being categorised as lesbian or homosexual, 'bi' has been adopted.
But the concept and expression avoids categorisation, as being bi is neither straight or homosexual. Its values can shift towards one or the other depending on the conditions and people involved.
as much as we can examine and reason the choice of becoming gay or bi, we also need to do the same for being hetero. Which in most cases people simply don't know how to or why they should.
you could say that they suit you if and when the circumstances determine them, but like many things sexual they often control you.
there is some with and wisdom to that idea, i suppose. obviously sex being something you don't normally demonstrate to the general public, and therefore can't receive continuing feedback.
Unless of course you shag in the front room and hail any passers by with a "how am i doing?'
For a while i had a pic of me in the bath. it almost looked like i was playing with my rubber duck. but it got a few emails and a couple of meets.
I suppose it was non threatening, ie not full frontal face on, offered some body detail, gave a reasonable indication of age, physique etc. It was so unlikely, but it worked.
we all know how you feel. but actually if you got a reply for every offer you sent out, you also might find it a bit tedious to deal with. and some guys can send out hundreds of offers. it doesn't do your soul much good to keep reading a lot of polite 'no thank you's'.
really it doesn't, trust us.........
I just wonder how or why so much more paranoia has crept into the game. back then we set off reasonably confident in what we were doing and in most cases it was a success. now there is so much hesitation and delay and doubt about doing it. But in basic terms of what's needed it hasn't really changed that much.
Cut away all the internet and front of house stuff on the sites and what are you left with? basically people who want to get some extra sex into their lives usually in their own homes. What do you need to do that? people who are reasonably confident about what they are doing and have acceptable accommodation in which to do it.
So the internet has only helped slightly in the technicalities, people some how have convinced themselves that they are now more likely to meet the psycho who lives in a zoo.
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yeah does anyone remember Rendezvous? Black and white 3/4 inch photos and a brief few words. there was no fine detail and no internet stuff, but we managed in those days.

Yes, some people are still using the same pics on their profiles here smile
Good grief. I mean I was using rendezvoue at least 20 years ago. There were some other ones as well. It was Goldstar Publications and such like?
I think that with a lot of 'sites', they developed along with the development of the internet, social networking and technology. That along the way there was as many changes and developments in the purpose of the site as with its capability to utilise them.
At the outset it was like coming into a room where an intimate and friendly party was going on and just about everyone could squeeze in. But later it became too big and people had to 'talk amongst themselves' and make their own fun in the reaches of an ever expanding location.
It seems like the internet has hit a wall and its got confusing and misleading, and its knocked a lot of hope and expectation out of using it. Which makes one think that's what is happening on individual sites and also with one's memberships and ultimately one's own lifestyle.
My advice is not to put it at the centre of what you do. Its an accessory.
So I don't see any use in looking to find blame in it all. And it won't go back to what it was, now.
yeah does anyone remember Rendezvous? Black and white 3/4 inch photos and a brief few words. there was no fine detail and no internet stuff, but we managed in those days.