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targaid
Over 90 days ago
Straight Male, 60
0 miles · Glasgow City
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Never look a gift-horse in the mouth, folks.
If someone offers to do a favour - and organising a munch for whatever categories is a favour for which we should feel grateful - questioning why is not very gracious behaviour.
Sure there are points to question sometimes like if there's a huge gate fee being asked for at a venue which does free room 'hires' (Note I'm NOT questioning that or implying it should be here), but you have to give folk the benefit of the doubt in the 1st instance.
If someone offers to do a favour - and organising a munch for whatever categories is a favour for which we should feel grateful - questioning why is not very gracious behaviour.
Sure there are points to question sometimes like if there's a huge gate fee being asked for at a venue which does free room 'hires' (Note I'm NOT questioning that or implying it should be here), but you have to give folk the benefit of the doubt in the 1st instance.
Just apologising for my no-show.
I got my schedule cleared, but ended up having to take the bairn to the hospital on the Saturday afternoon. (False alarm, thankfully!)By the time we got home, the last thing I wanted to do was come out & be sociable.
So, a big sorry & hope to see you all at teh next one.
I got my schedule cleared, but ended up having to take the bairn to the hospital on the Saturday afternoon. (False alarm, thankfully!)By the time we got home, the last thing I wanted to do was come out & be sociable.
So, a big sorry & hope to see you all at teh next one.
I have to say that this is one of the least judgemental & open-minded versions of this debate that I've ever seen! Congratulations all. Maybe the poing I always want to make in them will actually get discussed this time...
It seems to me that the swinging environment is actually one in which the use of effective barrier protection becomes almost impossible. As previously mentioned almost no-one uses dental dams and the use of gloves hasn't even come up (unless I missed it somewhere). In any situation, especialy where there is more than one woman involved it is extremely unlikely that truly safe sex will be the result. For example, take the case of an MMFF scenario:
If both women are Bi they are likely to finger each other and probably themselves creating a transmission vector and both guys will add finger-bound vectors, too. If F1 fists F2 then give her own fella a hand-job she creates another. Add toys (how many use condoms on those?)and there's yet another vector, especially if they're used anally; they could be in four people and up to 10 orifices! M1 has intercourse with his own partner and then, being responsible, wears a condom to penetrate F2. He could easily have vaginal fluids on his balls and rub those into F2 even wearing a condom. During the evening M1 gives F2 a facial creating possible transmission vectors through any small cuts she may have or in the eyes if his cum gets in them. M2 pulls out of F1, takes off his condom to cum on her ass. It's likely to trickle into her ass (I've often seen it rubbed into it at this point) or pussy -yet another vector. What if, say, F2 is a squirter and squirts over F1? It's more than likely that F1 will be shaved and could have nicks from shaving - another vector.
How are these preventable? Only by wearing condoms, using dams & wearing surgical gloves and changing them every time partners are changed, washing toys, applying the same rules or not sharing them.
Now be honest. How many of you could even consider being that thorough? If you did could you actually follow it through?
Am I saying we shoudn't bother? No. Just that there are a lot more risks than most folk consider and HIV is, as has been mentioned, probably the least likely of our worries as far as STIs are concerned.
It seems to me that the swinging environment is actually one in which the use of effective barrier protection becomes almost impossible. As previously mentioned almost no-one uses dental dams and the use of gloves hasn't even come up (unless I missed it somewhere). In any situation, especialy where there is more than one woman involved it is extremely unlikely that truly safe sex will be the result. For example, take the case of an MMFF scenario:
If both women are Bi they are likely to finger each other and probably themselves creating a transmission vector and both guys will add finger-bound vectors, too. If F1 fists F2 then give her own fella a hand-job she creates another. Add toys (how many use condoms on those?)and there's yet another vector, especially if they're used anally; they could be in four people and up to 10 orifices! M1 has intercourse with his own partner and then, being responsible, wears a condom to penetrate F2. He could easily have vaginal fluids on his balls and rub those into F2 even wearing a condom. During the evening M1 gives F2 a facial creating possible transmission vectors through any small cuts she may have or in the eyes if his cum gets in them. M2 pulls out of F1, takes off his condom to cum on her ass. It's likely to trickle into her ass (I've often seen it rubbed into it at this point) or pussy -yet another vector. What if, say, F2 is a squirter and squirts over F1? It's more than likely that F1 will be shaved and could have nicks from shaving - another vector.
How are these preventable? Only by wearing condoms, using dams & wearing surgical gloves and changing them every time partners are changed, washing toys, applying the same rules or not sharing them.
Now be honest. How many of you could even consider being that thorough? If you did could you actually follow it through?
Am I saying we shoudn't bother? No. Just that there are a lot more risks than most folk consider and HIV is, as has been mentioned, probably the least likely of our worries as far as STIs are concerned.
Quote by deancannock
sorry....no not sorry at all..pleased to see Scotland will not be at Euro 08. Dream results last night...with Italy winning and Israel winning. England will now qualify...and gives us good time to get some of the injured players back...and mark my words...we have every chance of being in last 4 at least !!!
Pride comes before a fall....
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And we are talking Scotland here remember
And your point is...?
Anyway, it seems from the reports that he was in his own room with the door locked. Now, having had cleaning staff walk in on me when staying at hotels I don't think it's too likely that he was aware they were there. I think he was found guilty and given those punishments just because the sheriff thought he was a pervert.
As it happens, I think he is, too. Difference is I don't think the poor sap should be punished for it as he wasn't harming anyone.
Freedom of speech is supposedly an inalienable right within a democracy. So why is it that sexual behaviour deemed as out of the 'norm' is so heavily political parties advocating greater sexual tolerance appear to be having problems. Have a read at this:
I wholeheartedly agree that there has to be control of sexual material, but adult discussion in an appropriate forum?
I wholeheartedly agree that there has to be control of sexual material, but adult discussion in an appropriate forum?
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who the fuck are the NMC to decide that having her pics on a website is 'fundamentally incompatible' with the image of the profession?
As much as I disagree with what's been done to this poor woman, in this case, the NMC are the governing body of the profession and as such are exactly the people who get to decide the moral standards of their profession. So that's not an issue for me here.
What is, though, is the hypocrisy about sex that runs riot through our society. I'm disgusted that it is deemed acceptable to show or want to see images of violence, but it is 'perverse' to show or want to show images of a sexual nature. Until real pornography, such as the rubbish produced by Eli Roth and his ilk, is looked on as being depraved we're never going to get past this kind of nonsense.
My local Cineworld has a fun display up in the foyer for the Simpsons Movie. A 'life size' Simpsons sofa complete with the whole family on it and an extra seat to let you be photographed beside them. (Can you guess where this is going yet?) I bet they have them in quite a few of the larger cities around the country.
I challenge the exhibitionists amongst us to see who can get the most revealing/naughty picture taken on this display. It's going to be pretty difficult in a cinema foyer, but someone's got to manage it. Who knows, I might even come up with a prize for it... :twisted:
I challenge the exhibitionists amongst us to see who can get the most revealing/naughty picture taken on this display. It's going to be pretty difficult in a cinema foyer, but someone's got to manage it. Who knows, I might even come up with a prize for it... :twisted:
Further evidence of how stupid and/or self obsessed she s (as if we needed it) comes from thefact that the silly b is still driving.
In front of the papparazzi.
Whilst making mobile phone calls.
She even got caught in a dead-end and couldn't 3-point turn out of it because she was so distracted & ended up sitting behind the wheel with her head in her hands. Her own for a change.
She knew perfectly well wht she was doing. The publicist will have been paid off to take the blame in an attempt to get her off it.
Adding insult to injury her actual reason for thinking she should be pardoned is that she "...brings light & joy into mundane lives."
Yeah, right.
In front of the papparazzi.
Whilst making mobile phone calls.
She even got caught in a dead-end and couldn't 3-point turn out of it because she was so distracted & ended up sitting behind the wheel with her head in her hands. Her own for a change.
She knew perfectly well wht she was doing. The publicist will have been paid off to take the blame in an attempt to get her off it.
Adding insult to injury her actual reason for thinking she should be pardoned is that she "...brings light & joy into mundane lives."
Yeah, right.
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If you are married you would be committing adultery regardless of the fact that all of you have agreed to be swingers. If either of you filed for divorce on the grounds of commiting adultery it would still be a legal claim.:P
That's a civil matter, not a legal one. No crime is being committed under either English or Scots Law. If you live under Sharia law, however, I believe it's a different matter.
