I'm a Tony... and I'm forever encountering more Tonys... never only ever met a couple of Steves, though...
On the other side of the coin, though, I'm always meeting Sarahs. And in my age group, it seems like 80% of women have the middle name "Louise."
Weird, huh?
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I like all music - although my "purchases" don't always reflect that - they tend to be more mainstream metal.
Gotta say, though, that after spending a few nights with Dani Filth on a film set, that there is NOTHING SEXIER in the world that Goth Women.
Black hair, loads of dark eyeliner, lots of lace, velvet and leather...
Grrrrr... :twisted:
Gotta say, though, that after spending a few nights with Dani Filth on a film set, that there is NOTHING SEXIER in the world that Goth Women.
Black hair, loads of dark eyeliner, lots of lace, velvet and leather...
Grrrrr... :twisted:
Out of interest, if you hate Valentine's Day, remember this:
It was created to remember Saint Valentine. He was a priest who went against the orders of the Roman Empire and continued to "marry" folks in secret. When caught he was sentenced to execution (which happened on Valentine's day, oddly enough) but before that was incarcerated.
All the people who loved him for what he had done sent him flowers, cards and gifts in prison, hence the tradition.
Incidentally, he's also the patron saint of Epileptics, since he was a sufferer and I, as a result, refer to myself by the traditional terminology as being a sufferer of "Valentine's Disease," which is rather romantic sounding, as opposed to "I'm an epileptic... yeah, if I start jerking about all over, feel free to jump on..."
It was created to remember Saint Valentine. He was a priest who went against the orders of the Roman Empire and continued to "marry" folks in secret. When caught he was sentenced to execution (which happened on Valentine's day, oddly enough) but before that was incarcerated.
All the people who loved him for what he had done sent him flowers, cards and gifts in prison, hence the tradition.
Incidentally, he's also the patron saint of Epileptics, since he was a sufferer and I, as a result, refer to myself by the traditional terminology as being a sufferer of "Valentine's Disease," which is rather romantic sounding, as opposed to "I'm an epileptic... yeah, if I start jerking about all over, feel free to jump on..."
I'll try to avoid my usual rant here of "lack of social equality between BiM and BiF" and focus on something else for a change...
Of all the people who know that I'm bisexual, the two weirdest responses have been from my boss at work, and an old college friend.
1: Boss.
Fairly young chap, and as such has acquired the modern speech tendencies to identify anything bad or unsatisfactory as being "gay." For example: "The TV's Broken! That's so GAY!" Weird, huh? Weirder still, though, is that whenever he utters this strange term, he then immediately turns to me and appologises for saying it, assuming I'll be offended.
Uh, right...
2: College Peer.
Young Gay Male. Once he'd finally accepted the fact that I was bisexual (took a long time to get his head around it), wanted to know why I woulnd't go out with him or, at the very least sleep with him. Aside from him just "not being my type," he couldn't understand when I pointed out "I'm bi-SEXUAL, not bi-ROMANTIC"
Sorry, pal, but although I find (some) men sexually attractive, I would/could not "go out with" or enter into a romantic relationship with them. Don't know why, just couldn't. And just because I wear the label, does that mean I have to be a universal uber-slut? I don't think so. I have never asked out a blonde woman in my life, simply because I am more attracted to brunettes/redheads - should there be a seperate label for that? No.
It's all a confusing morass of notions, names and thoughts floating around with no real link between what people think, say or believe.
I guess we just have to deal with it...
Of all the people who know that I'm bisexual, the two weirdest responses have been from my boss at work, and an old college friend.
1: Boss.
Fairly young chap, and as such has acquired the modern speech tendencies to identify anything bad or unsatisfactory as being "gay." For example: "The TV's Broken! That's so GAY!" Weird, huh? Weirder still, though, is that whenever he utters this strange term, he then immediately turns to me and appologises for saying it, assuming I'll be offended.
Uh, right...
2: College Peer.
Young Gay Male. Once he'd finally accepted the fact that I was bisexual (took a long time to get his head around it), wanted to know why I woulnd't go out with him or, at the very least sleep with him. Aside from him just "not being my type," he couldn't understand when I pointed out "I'm bi-SEXUAL, not bi-ROMANTIC"
Sorry, pal, but although I find (some) men sexually attractive, I would/could not "go out with" or enter into a romantic relationship with them. Don't know why, just couldn't. And just because I wear the label, does that mean I have to be a universal uber-slut? I don't think so. I have never asked out a blonde woman in my life, simply because I am more attracted to brunettes/redheads - should there be a seperate label for that? No.
It's all a confusing morass of notions, names and thoughts floating around with no real link between what people think, say or believe.
I guess we just have to deal with it...
Venus - might I say first off that I found your fantasy very arousing...
I won't pinch it though ;) it's yours!
I too am a menber on Alt and have found it to be a great place. Even if you were never to "meet" anyone through the site or do anything as a result, it's a great place for simple learning, and there are some cool people there (much like here, really).
Also I offer my thanks (as Tania will probably note from other threads - cheers pet) for justifying male bisexuality by incorporating it into a fantasy! Normally just doesn't go down well, but you made it into a splendid piece of prose!
Ta love!
I won't pinch it though ;) it's yours!
I too am a menber on Alt and have found it to be a great place. Even if you were never to "meet" anyone through the site or do anything as a result, it's a great place for simple learning, and there are some cool people there (much like here, really).
Also I offer my thanks (as Tania will probably note from other threads - cheers pet) for justifying male bisexuality by incorporating it into a fantasy! Normally just doesn't go down well, but you made it into a splendid piece of prose!
Ta love!
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" And here is me looking for a Haynes manual for a Toyota Space Cruiser "
Think I will foget it now :lol:
Fred
They don't make one, Fred. Haynes are notorious for their lack of publications on Japanese origin cars.
Note to self... spending too much time at work... bringing it home. Even onto SH! God, I'm sad...
They do also make, however, the Haynes Manual for "Baby," "Man," "Woman," and "Sex" - 200BC-Current Day, all makes, Models, colours and technical specifications... ;)
My favourite stuff has to be amateur, but I simply can't resist some of the more unusual stuff...
Not that I mean kinky in any way, but simply rare. Like "costume drama" style stuff that looks like it's been made by the BBC, or comedy, like the Pink Panther ripoff... that was a killer. Then there's the wonderful adaptation of Sleeping Beauty!
I like costumes in Porn... not as in "uniforms" like you might find on the net, but medieval all the way up to 20's or 30's cossie... even that one peachy internet site devoted to Star Trek Porn... now THAT'S a laugh an' alf...
Not that I mean kinky in any way, but simply rare. Like "costume drama" style stuff that looks like it's been made by the BBC, or comedy, like the Pink Panther ripoff... that was a killer. Then there's the wonderful adaptation of Sleeping Beauty!
I like costumes in Porn... not as in "uniforms" like you might find on the net, but medieval all the way up to 20's or 30's cossie... even that one peachy internet site devoted to Star Trek Porn... now THAT'S a laugh an' alf...
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And still 'on-topic' : there are plenty of guys around who might enjoy the tables being turned in some way - but I'm not sure I fancy being chased through the local woodlands by my gf with a scary strap-on shining in the moonlight - but, there again ...........
HEY! You stole my fantasy for a post! Curse you!
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Yes it is true along with what others have said before me. It is a welcome respite from lying on the bed with a man who keeps asking 'what do you want me to do?' It is like crying out in desperation 'For heavens sake, use your imagination!'
Consider also, however, that the very act of asking this might well be a silent plea for domination on their part... The need to be "told" what to do is a fundamental aspect of male submission, IMHO, since it is seldom that a man such as myself (6'2 and large built) encounters a lady with adequate physical properties to dominate him bodily.
Just a thought... I've been guilty of asking that myself, you see...
Hmm, weird...
I'm partial to a pork luncheon meat and cheese sandwich. If such an item is unavailable, find and consume the hottest variety of Peperami you can find. You will forget about all cravings. You must not, however, do this prior to any form of intimacy (unless you can find another Peparami addict and combine the two activities...)
I'm partial to a pork luncheon meat and cheese sandwich. If such an item is unavailable, find and consume the hottest variety of Peperami you can find. You will forget about all cravings. You must not, however, do this prior to any form of intimacy (unless you can find another Peparami addict and combine the two activities...)
Possibly, P-man, but I try to avoid going overseas if I can, so I wouldn't know!
And Tania, don't get me wrong - I don't get annoyed with these people since their opinions are theirs to keep! If anything I find it a little amusing because (from my point of view, at least) I know what they are missing out on! Seems a bit of a shame, really...
Back in the days when I was "straight" (ie pre-bi-discovery... ;) ) I was the kind of accepting straight guy you describe, blue - I went to a performing arts college and with all the "luvvieness" thereabouts it was hard to escape any possible gender preference and, to an extent, flagrant displays of such (I think I posted about my "losing virginity in crowded room" elsewhere in this forum as an example). I think that the acceptance is a point of nurture rather than nature - although obviously not 100%...
And Tania, don't get me wrong - I don't get annoyed with these people since their opinions are theirs to keep! If anything I find it a little amusing because (from my point of view, at least) I know what they are missing out on! Seems a bit of a shame, really...
Back in the days when I was "straight" (ie pre-bi-discovery... ;) ) I was the kind of accepting straight guy you describe, blue - I went to a performing arts college and with all the "luvvieness" thereabouts it was hard to escape any possible gender preference and, to an extent, flagrant displays of such (I think I posted about my "losing virginity in crowded room" elsewhere in this forum as an example). I think that the acceptance is a point of nurture rather than nature - although obviously not 100%...
Any time you like, Gem! ;)
Seriously, though... an entirely hedonistic, "any gender will do" outlook doesn't seem to go down to well in my peergroup/workplace/geographic or demographic situation... it's why I'm quite closet about the whole thing... hohum...
But you're right - no more thread hogging! Sorry!
Seriously, though... an entirely hedonistic, "any gender will do" outlook doesn't seem to go down to well in my peergroup/workplace/geographic or demographic situation... it's why I'm quite closet about the whole thing... hohum...
But you're right - no more thread hogging! Sorry!
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Bi men............ can I watch!?? :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Oh, if only there were more with such an attitude...
I find it grossly unfair that since 99% of men seem to find girl-on-girl arousing, simply being bisexual (or open to the possibility) can raise a lass up the "totty-o-meter" (as I'm sure most blokes have measured upon before... it's a pig thing). Conversely, however, I have frequently been greeted with either disinterest, revulsion or "Gay mate syndrome" when pointing out my sexuality to ladies...
Obviously hang out with the wrong ladies... heh...
I never thought it odd when once, at a party, my mate asked to borrow my car keys...
I had taken him there, so assumed he'd left something in the car...
An hour or so later, when I went looking for him, I found him to be still in the car.
With my girlfriend. In flagrante delicto...
They're both still my mates, however.
Point is, though neither of them "asked my permission" or told me about it, I really didn't mind. The moral of the story being that one never knows what will happen until it's happened.
And yes, I know we're pretty much past that part of the topic, but the thread nudged my memory...
I had taken him there, so assumed he'd left something in the car...
An hour or so later, when I went looking for him, I found him to be still in the car.
With my girlfriend. In flagrante delicto...
They're both still my mates, however.
Point is, though neither of them "asked my permission" or told me about it, I really didn't mind. The moral of the story being that one never knows what will happen until it's happened.
And yes, I know we're pretty much past that part of the topic, but the thread nudged my memory...
I was destined to be both an exhibitionist and a submissive - my first time was nigh on forced upon me by a very domineering lady in the middle of the main room at a college party in Croydon - with everyone looking! :shock:
They all decided, together (which means they actually discussed it before hand) that with only a month to go before my 18th birthday, it was high time that I lost my virginity...
If ONLY I knew then what I knew now... might have been able to generate an orgy scenario...
Still - totally cool for one's first time, huh?
They all decided, together (which means they actually discussed it before hand) that with only a month to go before my 18th birthday, it was high time that I lost my virginity...
If ONLY I knew then what I knew now... might have been able to generate an orgy scenario...
Still - totally cool for one's first time, huh?
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What's everything else like in your relationship? I ask because my marriage became sexless and I thought she didn't want to do it anymore, but then she had an affair which means either she did, or she will for a purpose. God knows which cause I don't.
For me, when I think about it now, the marriage would still have been OK even after an affair, and even without the sex, if everything else had been good too. We didn't and don't row, we get on quite well, we joke, we laugh, but we don't share anything outside of the house, separate hobbies, separate friends, so although she has asked for a divorce, (but would probably backtrack right now), and the reason I'm for pushing on, is that I hope I still have time to find a companion to enjoy life with and not just a housekeeper with whom I am friends. It is not enough.
Whose fault has it been? Probably 50/50, I'm no angel and maybe neither of us worked to make it right. I feel too tired to try and put 28 years right though, so if you're young and I think you are, try to steer it the right way. But then if you can't, don't do as I did and hold on and hold on, it's a mistake.
Everything in our relationship is fine! Neither of us have any cause to complain about anything, I feel... we have shared interests and separate interests, shared friends and separate friends... everything is in happy moderation ( I think) - and so there's no trouble there... there is a great difference in our familial backgrounds, but even that has never been a conflict...
Thankyou for that, mischief, it was insightful and moving in a way that you'd share that... I think there are probably some similarities there.
We do, however, have a great relationship outside of the bedroom. We flirt (ish), chat a lot, we're very tactile and playful and I try to avoid being selfish - especially in the bedroom. When we do have sex its far more important that she enjoys it than myself (I confess, that apart from that being the gentlemanly way, and because I love her, its because she might like it more, if it's better... that make sense?)
Anyhow, I don't want her to be a sex goddess. I don't even want her to be a sex angel - that's not who I fell in love with. I fell in love with a funny, smart woman who has more to talk about than makeup and fashion and the latest gossip - but is interested in art, music and a myriad other things. It's important for me (and always has been) to have a partner who I like and can talk to.
Yeah, I want a good sex life - who doesn't? - but more than that I want as many "things" between us to bring us close together as possible. Maybe it's a personal insecurity, but at the moment (since I'm such a new age guy, and totally sensitive and all that) I can happily confess to loving my best friend and her with equal fervour... so what is there that's different between the two relationships at the moment? Sure, I don't sleep in the same bed as my best friend, nor does he pay half the household bills, but at the moment that's all that marks the two apart. Not that I would give up either one for all the tea in china, you understand...
I hope I'm making sense (which, sadly, is seldom the case) but it is my hope that I can remain a part of these forums... and I confess I'd not want to do that if everyone thought I was a chauvenist dickhead who thought with his crotch not loved with his heart...
On a related topic, but on a different tack (and if it's not too personal), have any of the ladies here ever found sex to be painful? Just vanilla sex, that is - she sometimes mentions that, and I'm concerned it may be a factor in her not-enjoying it. There is something of a size discrepancy, and she was a virgin when I met her... I haven't enough experience to make a diagnosis...
We do, however, have a great relationship outside of the bedroom. We flirt (ish), chat a lot, we're very tactile and playful and I try to avoid being selfish - especially in the bedroom. When we do have sex its far more important that she enjoys it than myself (I confess, that apart from that being the gentlemanly way, and because I love her, its because she might like it more, if it's better... that make sense?)
Anyhow, I don't want her to be a sex goddess. I don't even want her to be a sex angel - that's not who I fell in love with. I fell in love with a funny, smart woman who has more to talk about than makeup and fashion and the latest gossip - but is interested in art, music and a myriad other things. It's important for me (and always has been) to have a partner who I like and can talk to.
Yeah, I want a good sex life - who doesn't? - but more than that I want as many "things" between us to bring us close together as possible. Maybe it's a personal insecurity, but at the moment (since I'm such a new age guy, and totally sensitive and all that) I can happily confess to loving my best friend and her with equal fervour... so what is there that's different between the two relationships at the moment? Sure, I don't sleep in the same bed as my best friend, nor does he pay half the household bills, but at the moment that's all that marks the two apart. Not that I would give up either one for all the tea in china, you understand...
I hope I'm making sense (which, sadly, is seldom the case) but it is my hope that I can remain a part of these forums... and I confess I'd not want to do that if everyone thought I was a chauvenist dickhead who thought with his crotch not loved with his heart...
On a related topic, but on a different tack (and if it's not too personal), have any of the ladies here ever found sex to be painful? Just vanilla sex, that is - she sometimes mentions that, and I'm concerned it may be a factor in her not-enjoying it. There is something of a size discrepancy, and she was a virgin when I met her... I haven't enough experience to make a diagnosis...
Thanks mischief, that would be great.
And thanks, Vix. That was constructive. I apologise for not being the most articulate writer in the world, and I obviously succeeded in convincing you that I am an asshole (or something). It was not my intention to do so, so I apologise for thereby coercing you into a post which so demeans your no-doubt astoundingly gracious nature...
Sharp wit, though, kudos to you... ;)
And thanks, Vix. That was constructive. I apologise for not being the most articulate writer in the world, and I obviously succeeded in convincing you that I am an asshole (or something). It was not my intention to do so, so I apologise for thereby coercing you into a post which so demeans your no-doubt astoundingly gracious nature...
Sharp wit, though, kudos to you... ;)
:shock:
On the quick, here, before this becomes a Teep-bashing contest ( ) I'd like to say a few things...
1: I am not now, nor have ever been a pushy asshole. I know nobody's said it, but if anyone thought it I'd like to clear that up.
2: Mrs Teep, bless her soul, has no sexual fantasies. She has no interest in sex whatsoever. Much in the same way I have no interest in ballet or jodeling. You following me so far?
3: The reason I have not left her as a result of (2) is that I happen to love her.
4: Whilst (in my view) trying to change the one you love is often a pointless effort, not to mention a little unkind, I would rather try and broaden her horizons so we can live a happy, fulfilling life than be an asshole and go behind her back. I view sex as fun. She views it (when she cares to ponder the matter) as an extension of a loving relationship. She sees no distinction between Sex and Making Love. I find that a perculiarly feminine view, but I am probably wrong on that.
Actually, fuck it.
Writing this out has left me confused. I don't know what I want to do, why, with whom...
All I know is that there is something wrong and I can't fix it. I don't want to leave her, but it seems we are incompatible sexually... it's not evan as if she's just vanilla... she's not icecream at all! What am I supposed to do? I have been with her for six years now, and it's like we're a 90 year old married couple! A Nookie Drought is in progress!
Aargh!
AUTHOR'S NOTE:
EasyTeep is, quite evidently, suffering interpersonal issues, babbling incoherently and generally being a baby. If this annoys you or you can see anything in the above post to moan about, feel free. If you happen to know any psychiatrists who don't charge, however, feel free to point them in my direction.
God I think I need counselling... or about 180 valium...
Sorry all.....writing is a form of therapy.... :(
On the quick, here, before this becomes a Teep-bashing contest (
) I'd like to say a few things...1: I am not now, nor have ever been a pushy asshole. I know nobody's said it, but if anyone thought it I'd like to clear that up.
2: Mrs Teep, bless her soul, has no sexual fantasies. She has no interest in sex whatsoever. Much in the same way I have no interest in ballet or jodeling. You following me so far?
3: The reason I have not left her as a result of (2) is that I happen to love her.
4: Whilst (in my view) trying to change the one you love is often a pointless effort, not to mention a little unkind, I would rather try and broaden her horizons so we can live a happy, fulfilling life than be an asshole and go behind her back. I view sex as fun. She views it (when she cares to ponder the matter) as an extension of a loving relationship. She sees no distinction between Sex and Making Love. I find that a perculiarly feminine view, but I am probably wrong on that.
Actually, fuck it.
Writing this out has left me confused. I don't know what I want to do, why, with whom...
All I know is that there is something wrong and I can't fix it. I don't want to leave her, but it seems we are incompatible sexually... it's not evan as if she's just vanilla... she's not icecream at all! What am I supposed to do? I have been with her for six years now, and it's like we're a 90 year old married couple! A Nookie Drought is in progress!
Aargh!
AUTHOR'S NOTE:
EasyTeep is, quite evidently, suffering interpersonal issues, babbling incoherently and generally being a baby. If this annoys you or you can see anything in the above post to moan about, feel free. If you happen to know any psychiatrists who don't charge, however, feel free to point them in my direction.
God I think I need counselling... or about 180 valium...
Sorry all.....writing is a form of therapy.... :(
Hmm....
@ Mischief: Pretty much, yeah.
@ Novice: Bless you dear, thanks.
@ AndyS: You're absolutely right, I did, and it is working to some extent - I just want to help the situation along... she's not as unreceptive as I make out, I guess...
@ lil_miz_naughty: See Misschief's post: she'd never RECEIVE that gift... it would be a keeper... ;) (oh, and LOVE that avatar ;))
@ Mischief: Pretty much, yeah.
@ Novice: Bless you dear, thanks.
@ AndyS: You're absolutely right, I did, and it is working to some extent - I just want to help the situation along... she's not as unreceptive as I make out, I guess...
@ lil_miz_naughty: See Misschief's post: she'd never RECEIVE that gift... it would be a keeper... ;) (oh, and LOVE that avatar ;))
Great question... I guess it'd have to be:
1: The knowledge, talent and skill to invent and build anything I can conceive (hello Bill Gates' fortune, goodbye famine, disease, illness and traffic jams)
2: Perpetual Health
3: For my fiancee have the same attitude to sex and swinging as myself, so we could have wonderful nights of passion with all you lovely people...
1: The knowledge, talent and skill to invent and build anything I can conceive (hello Bill Gates' fortune, goodbye famine, disease, illness and traffic jams)
2: Perpetual Health
3: For my fiancee have the same attitude to sex and swinging as myself, so we could have wonderful nights of passion with all you lovely people...
