i cant see these new Classes catching ....
under the old class systme we all knew where we where ... now no-one except the mega rich and the ultra poor will be able to tell for sure which category they are supposed to occupy!
feed of Crap!
Jack
..then the case will fail ... unless the insuers chicken out and choose to pay up rather than fight!
You will also notice a number of street lights in the area and I can personally testify to there being enough light for a rather drunken me to wander through the area several times at silly o clock in the morning in recent weeks!
If Trev is right that there is enough light to identify the "hazard" (and a court agrees) then this silly case is going to be thrown out and she will not receive compensation... the problem is that public liability insurers generally lack the back bone to fight ill concieved claims....in reality the probability is that her lawyer will claim a sum - say £35,000 and the insurers will decided to settle at say £15,000 rather than risk losing in court ...
the result is that the officer who makes a spurious claim is rewarded for her bare faced cheek ... and everyone else pays just a little bit more when they come to renew their insurance!
I hope that in this case the insurers fight the claim and have it thrown out ... but i wouldn't be too confident that they will !
Jack
When we were that age I suppose there was always the chance that you sized the other fella up and looked at your chances...The chances for NK to win are nil, all that will remain is a small passage in the history books. That is no reason to go to war.
Agreed Rogue.... but was always subject to how much i'd had to drink and how encouraging my mates were...
I suspect you are right ... i hope and pray you are right that this is just posturing by the young pretender... but i don't think i'd bet my last £1 on him having a really firm grasp of reality or a sense of perspective and NK's role (or lack thereof) on the World stage.
Jack
I can understand why some men shave and also why some choose not to....
I know hundred of thousands of men would disagree but it's goatee beards and moustaches that i can't fathom ... seems the worst of all worlds ... you can't give up shaving altogether but equally you are never rid of the facial growth !
Jack
You may be right to question whether being a Christian makes you a member of a race ditto whether being a Roman Catholic or for that matter a Muslim..... because all of these religions are proselytising religions (hope spell check will help me out!).
The Jews and certain other religions did not proselytisye (i.e. actively convert others) and so the membership of the religion is very closely tied to their race
though there are a small number of exceptions I would suggest there is no real room to argue that the Jews are not a distinct "race"
Jack
I suppose we could go down the path of questioning whether being a jew is to be a member of a religion or a race ... (I would say both)
Jed I can accept your right to hold your view but i can not agree m8 - Hitler was a racist pure and simple...
I suspect that Rogue's assessment about what NK wants is correct but it's the last point that concerns me most...
this is a super sized military state ruled by a guy who is 30 +/- and believes that he is the latest in a line of air breathing deities... Can we be sure that he won't feel that he has to make the first strike to avoid loosing face by backing down....
anyone else remember what it was like to be 30? How many fights or arguments would you walk away from today whereas 10 / 15/ 20 / 25 / 30 years ago you just piled straight in and fuck the consequences!
Jed
Are you suggesting that AH and BM were not racists because they hated everybody equally?
AH: I hate all Jews whether black or white therefore i am not a racist?
BM: I'm with mate .. and I hate all Gypsy whether they come from Poland or Romania or Serbia or Albania.. and because my hatred is so "pure" i am not a racist either
Gotta admit to having some difficulty following your logic on this one Jed.
Fascists would have you believe that theirs is a considered set of political beliefs rather than a knee jerk xenophobic reaction against anyone from a different culture or ethnic background....
but that's just bollocks .... of course fascists are racists.... if it looks like a duck waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck ..... it's a duck .. however much it might like to pretend it's a swan!
Very interesting exchange here... and no one slagging the others off... feels almost grown up!
I think Foxlady makes a useful point as does Rogue Trader which goes to the heart of this issue.
If the garage owner has done his risk assessments - as he would be required to do to safe guard you or I if we went to his garage - he will not have a claim to answer...... if however the premises were "defective" and would have presented a hazard to you, or me or Rogue or Trev or anyone else on his premises as a customer of his business then he is probably going to be found to have breached the duty of care he owed to all members of the public ...and that will include a police officer attending in the course of his / her duty.
The point is that the duty of care owed to the police by the garage owner is not a higher duty of care than the one he owes to the general public ...BUT it is not a lower one either!
Do we want to get involved in hostilities involving North Korea.... Absolutely NOT !!
I think that was a rhetorical question from Jed ... I'm sure it was!
Jack
Do you really think ?
Didn't that attitude disappear when they stopped making Carry On films and Ealing Comedies?
Sorry ....
Not so ...
Mids is completely correct!
J
you may well be right ... but of course there is no guatantee that the bank's share value will increase..... if you look at the Halifax their shares are now worth approx 1/10th of what they were 10 years ago!
Altho people are quick to say that certain classes of people should not get benefits or hand outs I hear less about what they would do with these people.
As a society we need to protect the vulnerable ... from what ever part of society they come from.
If we have Romanian families with young children who need housing then they must be housed... because no one wants to see familes with young children living rough on the streets of the UK
I think we do need to control immigration but once these people are here they become our problem. If they have entered illegally they should be returned home but if people are here lawfully they must be helped....
..and in return for our help they must contribute to society ideally by working and paying taxes - that is the social contract we all have with our generous welfare society.
Interesting that 48 hours after the thread was started by Trev ...only 9 people have chosen to take part in their online survey ...
....ONLY 9...
I don't think it matters that the australian PM was in nappies ....the symbolism is important.
Those victims of this policy who packed the Oz parliament to hear the applogy thought it was important
This is the same as awarding medals to the Atlantic Convoy and Bomber Command crews from WW2 ..and the apologu given by the japanese for attrocities commeited against allied troops.
