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That fateful day i watched the horrors of 9/11 unfold on Skynews. I saw the second plane hit and my immediate reaction was almost to cry. I couldn't quite believe what I was watching. An old friend of mine died in the aftermath, he was in the second tower. Susie's birthday is on September the 11th, and she has always wanted to go to New York for her birthday. Obviously, she has no feelings about celebrating her birthday on such a day now.
What happened that day really brings into perspective the trials and tribulations of life. No matter how much shit you have to put up with from time to time, you only have to think about the families who lost loved ones that day to know that your lot in life isn't half as bad as what these families had to suffer.
Paul
Quote by surreycouple2003
hmmmmm......
Cant make up my mind about this one.
Obviously the massive amount of publicity they received is bound to create a massive influx of new 'client's'.
However this should have been managed properly - I am guessing (and it is a guess!) that the dollar bill's took precedent over customer enjoyment here.
Maybe thats what they had in mind, or maybe they just had too many applicant's to be able to vet them accordingly.
However, regardless of the reason people will vote with their feet and Mr & Mrs Radlett may find their house full of single guys in the not too distant future.
I would be interested to hear of any 'good radlett reports' post the TV show.
Dx

With regard to the 'vetting' thing,
As far as i know, they have no vetting requirements at all, this is fine by us and like many parties of this sort, it's not really an issue. They say themselves that they don't run these parties as a business, well, after the 'care' and 'support' of the hosts, we find that statement 100% true, because no 'business' would treat their customers/clients the way we felt we were treated.
The help we did recieve was from a very kind and helpful guy, armed with wellies and a tow rope and his trusty steed!!!
We knew there'd be an influx of new people to the party after the recent exposure, all we can really say is if this is going to be the case across the whole 'scene' then maybe we're just gonna let it pass us by.
Paul and Susie x
Quote by Mark
You know you could always add this to their review page - I'd happily post it up ;)
It is shameful the way you were treated... one can only imagine they were too taken up with their current celebrity status??? Who knows dunno
NOT a good way to run parties though, not on a number of grounds by the looks of it!

Hiya Mark,
We're more than happy for you to paste the original message up and add to the review page, funny, how our first review of the place was full of praise, maybe we went on a good night the first time round, or maybe a bad night second time around, either way, we won't be going back.....
Paul and Susie xx
Quote by GenHertsCpl
Thats appalling! Did the hosts not even eventually come out to you?
Shameful!

Nope, not a word, we eventially got help from the guy with the 4x4 who was our lifesaver. As for Richard and Janet(The Hosts) we were very very angry at the time. Looking back on it now, we're still incredibly angry at the way the whole night went.
Paul x
Hiya,
Susie and I went to Radlett on Saturday our 'second' trip there. We had kind afigured that with all the exposure oon the TV that there would be more people than usual, we weren't wrong.
There were a lot of new faces and some of the regulars at the parties pointed out that they had not seen so many new faces on one night before.
We had envisaged a really good night, much like the night we had last month. How wrong could we be.
Firstly, the people there much to our surprise were some of the most disrespectful people we've met, in any walk of life, not just the 'swinging' lifestyle. As ever on this particular Saturday of the month, it was advertised as a couples only party. Well, if this was a 'couples only' party, then i am most definately the Prime Minister. I don't have a problem with single guys, we've been to clubs where there are single guys and for the most part, they a re generally well behaved and extremely respectful, well at radlett, on Saturday night, they weren't, not one iota.
Susie and I aren't really into the full swap thing, and often, we play alone but with an audience etc.. Saturday, hands were on us almost as soon as we started playing, Again, Susie being the focal point as ever. We don't mind swinging with couples, as long as it's OK and we're asked, spoken to, etc.. What we don't like is when a couple, single guy etc just take it as read that we're going to play and immediately start touching Susie and I.
It got so bad at one point that i lost my temper with one particular 'bloke' and basically told him to 'eff off' we left soon after really disappointed with the whole experience. After having such a great time last month, i doubt we'll be visiting Radlett again.
To top the night off, we got stuck in the grounds after our car got stuck in the quagmire of the 'parking field' We seeked help from the 'Hosts' and were told that help would be sought(they've had this problem before as explained on their website) so we were confident that we'd 'be sorted'.
After an hour of waiting, Susie went back to the house to seek out 'the hosts' only to have the door shut on her very rudely and no help forthcoming, and being verbally accosted by a couple of single guys(obviously thinking she was alone).
If it wasn't for the helpful guy with the 4x4 we'd still probably be there, so whoever you were, if you read this, our appreciation to you is incredibly high.
As for Radlett parties, we recommended them highly last month, this month, a completely different kettle of fish, we'd not go back there again, ever.
Paul and Susie (Paul)
hiya two's....
We know of a couple of parties happening this weekend, we're trying to get things arranged so we can go to at least one of them...lol
PM us if you'd like details
Paul and Susie xx
Quote by WibblyWobbly
Susie and I have both been to radlett and the age range, is pretty accurate. However, as always seems to be the case in this forum, one comment, that in my opinion, has been taken out of context by some people leads to a massacre of individuals.

Hiya Paul
Quote by Radlett Website
There is no restriction on age or physique, but it has been many months since we saw any one who had lost pride in their appearance to the extent of being fat.

Can you not see the ugly nature of the above sentence? I completely understand that people have preferences, nature made us that way but to communicate your dislike of a certain type of build in such a negative way is disturbing. Thirty years ago it could have said...
"There is no restriction on age or physique, but it has been many months since we saw any one of dark skin colour who got ideas above their station."
I know I'm giving an extreme example but the comparison is there I feel.
Quote by PaulnSusie
If people on this forum feel they are inadequate because of the way they look because they are bigger, that is their problem, not others. Why is it that if somebody makes a comment on size, it is immediately jumped on as an opportunity to defamate the character of someone?

I would feel the same if the sentence had been about thin people with big hooked noses... it is not the preference stated as such but more about the derogatory way in which the preference was laid out.
With regard to your comment about people defaming the characters of others... I've genuinely not seen it... but I must admit to having a sneaking suspicion that you were adopting a stance of 'attack is the best form of defence' lol
Quote by PaulnSusie
I myself find 'fat' people unnattractive, does this make me any less of a human being for having my own preferences? They may be beautiful people inside and I may get on really well with that person, it is a fault of mine, or a fault of anyone else for that matter if i/they don't find a 'fat' person sexually appealing?

Nope... not a sausage wrong with that... but would you personally have written that sentence? If not, is it possible that you see the offensiveness of it. confused
Thanks for reading... smile
Hiya Wibbly :)
I do see the point being made, and maybe it was a wrong choice of wording, however, as stated on the website, there is no restriction on age or physique. I have a bit of a beer belly, but i take pride in my appearance. I haven't'let myself go' i do look after myself in the best way i can.
I myself wouldn't have worded the comment that the appears on the Radlett Party website, and I suppose i could pick up on it as an outrageous statement that needs to be brought to the attention of every forum user, however, i do hold with what he was trying to say, not the 'fat' comment but people who'd let themselves go. In other threads, not Radlett, there have beem comments made about people not 'dressing up' enough and that swingers in general are not really making an effort, sweat tops, pants etc..
For the record, to my knowledge, my character has not been 'defamed' therefore, i don't feel i need to adopt the stance of 'attacking someone to defend myself' on the contrary, i think the attacks being directed at a website which only days earlier was the toast of the community on this forum, altogether a completely different animal now, because the wording of one sentence was to the distate of members.
I don't know the guy personally, i've met him and his wife and they are genuinely lovely people, do you not think his character is being reflected in a totally different light than it was a few days ago after the prgram had aired?
I utterly respect the viewpoint and thoughts of others as I hope my comments and thoughts are respected as my own opinion, not anyone elses.
Paul
I have been reading this debate with great interest. But I would like to point out that the Radlett party when we went there, was a complete mix of people of all shapes, sizes, races, fetishes and was BY NO MEANS full of model type "beautiful" people - in fact a very wide cross-section of the human population and an accurate representation of our swinging community. Although I can understand that the wording in the website could cause offense - there was a very large proportion of people who obviously took no offense! We had a great time and I would also like to point out that there is absolutely no screening policy regarding applicants and ABSOLUTELY NO BODY IS TURNED AWAY ON THE BASIS OF LOOKS OR SIZE. Just wanted to point that out.
Susie x
Sorry to hear about that.
I was made redundant a couple of months ago and it sucked. Hope you get everything sorted for you as quick as possible.
Paul
Quote by Calista
I myself find 'fat' people unnattractive, does this make me any less of a human being for having my own preferences? They may be beautiful people inside and I may get on really well with that person, it is a fault of mine, or a fault of anyone else for that matter if i/they don't find a 'fat' person sexually appealing?

What happens, then, when you've spent plenty of time online chatting to an individual, you find yourself drawn to them, you chat and an attraction between you appears. You get on well and build up a great relationship online, you like the same things sexually, you would like to arrange to meet.
Then you find that the person you thought was lovely and alluring is slightly larger???
I said in my post, that i find 'fat' people unnattractive, nowhere can i recall saying that i didn't find 'slightly larger' people unnattractive.
As for putting myself in a situation where i would/could find an attraction developing online without meeting someone... Simply, I wouldn't. I've met people on this forum that i find stimulating, nothing more.
I may seem shallow and the old adage of beauty on the inside is true to a certain extent. i ask you this, if you 'developed' a relationship online, and felt attracted to that person sexually, then met up with said person and found him/her/them physically unnattractive, would you sleep with them because you felt that the 'online' attraction was more important to you?
I myself have to be physically attracted to someone to develop things further sexually. OK, If i'm in the minority, which i believe I am not, then I apologise for expressing my views. But as has been said, this is an open forum, for open discussion.
Paul
Quote by neilinleeds
i am sooooo gonna hate myself, but i can't ignore it . . . . .
I myself find 'fat' people unnattractive, does this make me any less of a human being for having my own preferences? They may be beautiful people inside and I may get on really well with that person, it is a fault of mine, or a fault of anyone else for that matter if i/they don't find a 'fat' person sexually appealing?

i think you have already found on another thread, that while we all have a sexual preference, it is perhaps better kept to yourself, in the company of likeminded individuals! who knows, maybe you find your preferences are not what you thought they we're, which is why we are all here, i think!
Quote by Paul
If people on this forum feel they are inadequate

possibly some people find themselves here with those issues, and then find they are not issues at all, in here
Quote by Paul
I like this forum, i really do, but i find that the tired 'club together and massacre anyone who doesn't agree with what we're saying' attitude that seems prevelant here really off putting at times.

i think you will find that this of all places is one of those places where that does not happen, unless unbelievably crass and ill-considered comments have been made . . .
Quote by Paul
it is not meant to be offensive

nor is my reply to you, in any way shape or form. i suspect i have come across as such . . . i apologise . . .
Quote by Dxx
And I also doubt that those ppl would get into Radlett.

it is up to others to judge whether i would have been allowed in . . . i no longer want to try!!! thanks for that!
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unquoted, and i now pick my words carefully, and they might come out all wrong. i hope CQ that you found at the weekend, that what i've tried badly to say above is, is more representative of the people here, that we have both met, than the radlett "fat" thing!!! . . . . after all that, i find i can't find the right words, so i won't try . . . .
and if i have been at all offensive, i apologise. healthy debate is why we're here, is it not???
neil x x x x
Neil,
While I appreciate your 'concerns' about me wanting to keep my preferences to myself, can i ask why? I'm not going to hide behind a facade and pretend to be something/someone I'm not smile
How you can honestly say that people don't jump on a bandwagon and tear into someone for expressing an opinion that differs from the masses doesn't happen here, i refer you to a thread about a certain members thread for 'excluding' members, I have no wish to get into a slanging match, but i think your observations are incredibly wrong :)
I didn't find your post at all offensive, in fact, healthy debate, differing opinions and general discussion invigorate my mind.
Paul
maybe massacre was a bit strong, but that was my point, sometimes there are.
I'm also, expressing my thoughts, what is wrong with that.
Looking back through some threads in very recent history, if someone has made a comment that isn't agreed to by certain people, then the person who made that comment has been victimised a little. I also think that if it wasn't for the fact that the perosn had a strong character , they could've been quite upset with the response from certain members.
Maybe i will be victimised for being non-conformist to the masses on the forum, time will tell
Paul
Having read this post thread, and subsequent threads regarding size, ugliness, fat, thin, minging, beautiful etc.. etc...
I(Paul) wish to voice my opinion on the Radlett parties.
Susie and I have both been to radlett and the age range, is pretty accurate. However, as always seems to be the case in this forum, one comment, that in my opinion, has been taken out of context by some people leads to a massacre of individuals.
The people that went to the Radlett party were of all shapes, sizes, race, there wasn't 'fat' people there, there were some large build people. When i say large, i mean large, not fat.
I often wonder about the insecurities of people if they feel that they 'have' to make a stand because of the way they are built. I know many large people and some are attractive, I know many 'fat' people and some are unnattractive.
If people on this forum feel they are inadequate because of the way they look because they are bigger, that is their problem, not others. Why is it that if somebody makes a comment on size, it is immediately jumped on as an opportunity to defamate the character of someone?
I myself find 'fat' people unnattractive, does this make me any less of a human being for having my own preferences? They may be beautiful people inside and I may get on really well with that person, it is a fault of mine, or a fault of anyone else for that matter if i/they don't find a 'fat' person sexually appealing?
I like this forum, i really do, but i find that the tired 'club together and massacre anyone who doesn't agree with what we're saying' attitude that seems prevelant here really off putting at times.
This posting is not directed at individuals and it is not meant to be offensive, i'm not the kind of person who'll just agree with the masses to keep things on an even keel, i'm no yes man, i have an opinion, and it is my own.
I have made some great friends here and i wish to carry on making friends, even if they are fat, ugly, sexy, minging, beautiful.
I just wish sometimes that people would take a step back and try and understand what they are saying sometimes instead of victimising certain people for comments that have been made/taken out of context.
Paul
Hiya Santino....
I never had any phobias, now i have two major ones...
When i was about 16, i watched a TV prgramme and one clip showed this snake with it's gob wide open latch onto someones face, ever since i have a major phobia about the slithery things, can't even watch em on telly.
Before that, the reptile house was my favourite place in the Zoo's, now i wouldn't go near them.
my second semi-phobia is wasps..... bout 7 years ago i worked as a despatch rider in London, a wasp got under my helmet while riding and stung me about 6 times....
what the fuck do they do all day, just doss around stinging every bastard thats what....
Paul xx
Hiya Foxy,
I'm not a lorry driver, but my old man is... and some of the things he's seen are quite naughty..... I remember going out with him in his lorry when i was about 16. I saw a sight that at the time really embarrased me.... one fine looking woman performing oral on the driver... looking back on it now... it was a nice sight, but at that impressionable age....
Also, Susie and I have 'tried' to get the attention of lorry drivers, particularly a couple of weeks ago on the way to SurreySingle's party.... lol.... teasing fuckers that we are!!!
Paul and Susie xx
with regard to the video camera....
On their website, they say that 'some' items have been stolen, electrical goods, CD's software, books etc.... so i can only presume they meant to hide it in bedroom 5 (there are a couple of rooms that are not used for the parties)
Paul and Susie xx
We like everyone else watched the programme.
We obviuously had an interest having been to the Radlett party last month. As we said it was strange watching it on the TV, we've been there, we spoke to her, we chatted to him etc....
'The Loft' brought back some interesting memories...lol
We aren't too sure about Liberation, i think it is just a little too formal for us and the sax... well, thats just not us.
Radlett was only our second party, and i have to say, for anyone 'new' or contemplating going to a party, this was a very relaxed, no pressure environment. Susie particularly enjoyed the 'dance' area with the pole and demonstrated some skills round it.
I agree with everyone elses comments on how good and refreshing the programme was, and made a nice change from portraying the swinging lifestyle in a seedy manner as is such with most documentaries associated with 'alternative' lifestyles.
We may be going next week Saturday (Couples only)
Paul and Susie xx
We can say from experience that the Radlett Parties are excellent.
Watching it now and it seems really strange to see it on the TV, for the record, Susie and I enjoyed a really wild time in the trainset room...lol otherwise known as the lof dungeon, although the swing didn't get any use as it was taken over most of the night by a particularly energetic female ;)
Paul and Susie xx
Quote by shireen-steve
They are organised by another website, obviously, won't name which one but i'm pretty sure we're talking bout the same thing ;)
Anyway, should make interesting viewing....

In that case then I sure hope that it is a fitting tribute to them in light of what happened recently...
I will be there with my glasses on.... lol wink
Thanks
Shireen
xxx
Oh.... well, it's not 'that' website, we've been there too, great parties.
paul and Susie xx
hiya mate...
Not sure how you saved them, but mostly if they have been saved in the wrong format ie as a .txt file, you should just be able to rename the file but obviously as a graphic file.
Do you know what they were before hand? .jpg .gif etc?
try just renaming with the diferent extension.
paul
Quote by shireen-steve
The party in herts is the one we went to.... we didn't actually go on the night they filmed, we went the month after, but I have to say, the parties held there are excellent....
Paul and Susie xx

Would these parties have been organised by another website at all???.... I know that there was a documentary being filmed about a well known swinging couple...
Shireen
xxx
They are organised by another website, obviously, won't name which one but i'm pretty sure we're talking bout the same thing ;)
Anyway, should make interesting viewing....
The party in herts is the one we went to.... we didn't actually go on the night they filmed, we went the month after, but I have to say, the parties held there are excellent....
Paul and Susie xx
Steve-O!!!!!
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Nice one matey!!! congrats to you and your lovely wife!!!! have a GREAT WEEKEND!!!
Paul and Susie
Not personal to you Steve. I've noticed that a lot of the threads get "taken over" and end up becoming a conversation between a small group of members which doesn't relate to the original thread at all. Fine if the author has no problem with it but maybe a bit frustrating if they genuinely want responses?!
Thats my take on what Paul's said anyway - Susie smile
Quote by Steve_Lincs
Thanks PaulnSusie,but all responses are welcomed,as long as its not about you wanting me hung by my balls :shock:

All responses are welcomed to posts that i (Paul) make too, i'm not saying that, but sometimes i feel a little let down if i've made a serious post and it gets hijacked and then goes off at a tangent.
I'm not innocent of a few minor hijacks since i've been here, but i always try and return to the point in hand on the original post.
Paul
Quote by Jags

I tend to find also, that threads get taken over by quite a few people, hijacking i think it's called, this really disappoints me and must say, that is one of the reasons why i/we don't post as often as we would like, it tends to be hijacked and then the whole 'clique' of some members talk about endless rubbish.

True.... thanks!
thanks? for what ?
Hiya Steve,
I have to agree with you Steve, I really do think the quality of posts of late have been quite poor, some have been really fun, especially, the '3 things about the person above you' must rank as one of the fastest developing threads since we've been members here.
I tend to find also, that threads get taken over by quite a few people, hijacking i think it's called, this really disappoints me and must say, that is one of the reasons why i/we don't post as often as we would like, it tends to be hijacked and then the whole 'clique' of some members talk about endless rubbish.
Anyway, just wanted to agree with your point.
Paul and Susie (Paul)
Hi,
Paul has posted several responses to this thread and I agree with his sentiments about it being an interesting read - I have to say I have found it quite amusing as well. I think Heather is an absolutely fascinating person and I think that it shows her maturity that she can't understand why anyone would want to argue about the differing viewpoints regarding shagability, well said Heather! Everyone is different, has different qualities to offer, and has different definitions of beauty. I think that what Surrey couple were trying to say was that they would feel more comfortable if they were surrounded by people close to them in age, who they found "good looking, attractive". I really don't believe that they were trying to offend anyone or incite outrage.
As for how I regard myself, I try my best to improve on my ordinary looks because it makes me feel better, that's my choice. As a fitness proffessional, I would not feel I presented a believable example to my clients if I was carrying around a lot of excess weight and believe me, I am not naturally blessed with a slim physique - I have to eat sensibly and exercise loads (Paul helps there!) wink The fever parties do appeal to me because they look glamourous and I love glamour, dressing up, make-up, perfume - that's just me. I do not expect anyone else to regard me as good looking, but I won't complain if they do.
Anyway, essay over - just had to have my say. I really hope this party does come off on Saturday because its Pauls birthday and I want to do something sexy with him to celebrate - plus we were too late to apply for the NW munch!
Susie xx
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Aint it funny how something so innocent a few years back can now be viewed as outright sexual......
And to thinnk that gay meant happy.........
Paul
The 'Fever parties' website is for beautiful people i understand. We wanted to apply for one of the parties in August but it was fully booked....
I think possibly that the thread relating to Surreycouples party should be unlocked as it has provoked some interesting and lively debate in the forum.... not before time!!!
I'm not a politician but I for one have welcomed this thread as a great read, and the repllies to various posts have been thought provoking, not just pointless posts.
Heather... sweetie, unlock the thread, i loved the debate!!!
Paul