The mystery of life after death, definitive proof, but wouldn't it open a massive can of worms. Religion our whole belief and faith system, and it might change the world for the better??
Having joined the site initially as a couple and now using the site as a single male primarily for the cafe I have had the experience of both types of attention.
When i used to swing as a couple we were constantly getting mails from single guys. Now if the mail was a wink we would ignore it completely. If it was a what i used to describe as a "one line expect-a-fuck" we used to ignore that. However on the rare, (and if i'm being honest, it was rare) occasion that we did get well thought out informative reply or posts we used to reply even if it were a "no thank you".
I think what single males forget is that being in a majority group they have to stand out and not just expect to come on here and get a GUARANTEED shag. It's a simple numbers game and what you say on your reply or advert is kind of what or how people will think of you. If it's a one liner or short "what i want is" then couple's will be far less inclined to reply than someone who puts a bit about themselves and takes time to write something as it shows you will make the effort should things evpolve further from there.
Some advice to newbie single guys looking to meet couples from someone looking at the bigger picture who isn't really bothered about meeting anyone and has been about for a little while on here and seen a lot of what goes on.
Write a well worded and informative advert stating who you are, what your about and most important what YOU can offer THEM!
Be honest, it makes for better compatibility and therefore greater chance of a meet up.
Don't expect to send one mail and get a shag, just because it's a swingers site doesn't mean it's full of sluts who will have sex with you within the first correspondence. Have the patience to get to know people, chat online and have a bit of banter. Just like in the "real world" people on swingingheaven usually like to get to know people before having sexual encounters with them.
Expect non replies, and don't go on the forums having a go about it when you inevitably get sick. Perseverence is the key to success in my humble opinion.
Now go forth and procreate ye single men of swingheaven.
Hi guys have returned to the Cafe once again as inevitable. This place even after long abscences always draws me back. Prob not light Sunday reading this but here goes.....
I'm a youngish attractive guy,I have a good job and all that mainstream apparently important stuff, not really looking for swinging action these days (though there is always scope for changes of mind if offers unrefusable in nature were to present themselves :-)). So.......why am I here?
I feel at home here for some reason, probably because due to reasons relating to my past and upbringing and the fact I don't like to share my feelings with people on a social level I can be myself here with the anonimity of people not knowing me on a personal level.
Which brings me onto my main topic point.
Do you think that there are some people who are just not capable for one reason or another to hold down a long lasting relationship?
I ask this because having recently been left by my partner,(dont worry she knew I came on here and read and posted on the cafe, trust issues of that nature were never a factor for us), i have come to a realisation.
I've had two meaningful relationships in my life one for 4 years with a girl who is now my best and entirely platonic friend, and one with the afore mentioned now former partner for a year . The problem in both those relationships and the reason for them ending? Me. Same problem both times.
Due to not having a very stable upbringing I was always sure that they were going to leave and abandon me, they didnt really love me the way i wanted and needed and used to then try to test them by behaiving in a way which i thought would make them unhappy with me and therefore leave me thus proving what i already thought. Fucked up hey?
I think it is a case of a self fullfilling prophecy and even though during my relationship i used to try and make out it was their fault, the blame lie's completely with me.
What I want to know is even though i am to blame in my actions,and i believe strongly that i just can't help it and will inevitably do this again, should I just accept that I'm wrong for people?
The girl previously in my life was fantastic in so many ways, she had hers faults and problems yeah, but don't we all and I, instead of seeing her good points kept looking out for signs that what I believed was going to happen would. Eventually this drove her away after a long suffering 6 months, and i just don't think i could go through, nor put anyone else through the same shit hence my question and subsequent post.
Has anybody else been through the same thing either with or as a partner to somebody as your comments and repliers would be greatly appreciated or even if you haven't what do you think?
Over to the ever relieble Cafe members.....
I used to take rejection very personally when i was in my early 20s but i think i was very self concious then and didnt have a lot of confidence in myself and used to think looks were everything. As i got older i realised that if it happened i wasn't really that arsed as i thought my personality is more important than the way i look and if they dont want to get to know me stuff 'em. Plenty more fish in the sea ehy?
Hey mate, long time no see, have a great night out hopefully might make the next one, been A.W.O.L for a loooooooonnnnnnggggg time x
Wow, first time back to the cafe in many, many months and this is what I find!?
I've heard some crazy things while a member of SH but this is up there with the craziest.
Anyway, good luck to the OP with the fetish, if you can find a person, then here is as good a place as any.
I'd love to say each to their own but this is a bit far left field for me.
Hi guys used to use the site mainly for the forums therapeutis stress relieving and witty banter type stuff a good while ago. Not really that interested in the sexual side of the site more the chat and community of loikeminded people so a friendly hello is all i offer and hope it is taken with the best of regards!!
Hope you lot are all as friendly and welcomi8ng as i remember from my prolific posting days.
Mr Srne x
Thanks Sarah, very much appreciated! x
"Lightning can strike twice, it hurts" :shock:
Hi, welcome to the Forums.......
Firstly, you cant make anybody do something that they dont want to do, but you can gauge the likelihood of your wife wanting other people to participate in your sex life by measured steps.
You say you often talk and fantasise about other people watching you which is the first step we took when my now swinging partner and I were trying to explore our more varied sexual appetites.
The next step we took was to really talk about it and discuss the pros and cons of what we found out we each realistically wanted to do, which is generally much different from fantasy land.
Maybe if you both want to "see what all this is about" perhaps decided on going to a social and seeing what all of these people were really like whereby there is no pressure on you to do anything other than drink have a chat with people etc.
This is probably the best and less risky approach as if you jump straight in without thinking or really talking it over there is bound to be complications somewhere down the line!
Good luck!
Ok, so I hear and see a lot of "not much action" and "is the NE dead for dogging" threads on here. It used to make my blood boil at times and I, as a male at the time with a female who enjoyed the odd spot of dogging, thought little of it.
Anyway, I have been thinking, would there be any interest in a North East Dogging type meet up somewhere, which would act a little like a social whereby there would be no actual dogging involved just a chance for a few like-minded couples and a few singles to meet up discuss locations and/or look to organise meet ups in the future.
Now, numbers would have to be strictly limited and this would ensure that the thing does not turn out to be a car meet, or a chance for the fleeting opportunist to "get a bit of action". Regular posters to this section of the forum, those who are known to others through munches, socials etc, or just a few new and level headed people to put something constructive and forward moving together?
Maybe have about 8 couples and 5 or 6 single males or if they should appear single women, meet up at a pre-arranged location and have a chat, maybe go for a quiet drink at a local pub, just putting it out there to see if its a no goer or something other people have maybe thought about? This way it creates a safer environment for people to meet a few other people interested in similar activities to themselves?
I think the vague nature of what he was saying was why the thread was locked.
Your right in that not many people would have replied ordinarily, but these type of threads all too often can lead to hijacking and gang ridiculing, which we as regular users see as a bit of fun and to some degree protecting the site from idiots who come along every now and again to upset the flow of what we usually do here.
Non regular users however, may see it as a form of bullying of a newer member (which in SOME cases I can see where they are coming from) and this would obviously be detrimental to the forums and the site as a whole. Lots of newer members dont really get what the forums are about at first, some never really do, and they can and should be forgiven for that on the first few occasions(I know my first posts were extremely misguided).
The Mods have a pretty difficult balancing act I imagine, sometimes they get it wrong but hey were all human, however most of the time these type of threads and posts just clutter up the forum with useless and unneeded text??
ok to the original poster........
your advert says you are a single male, now, because of this and because there are pictures of just you on the profile people will be dubious to give you any information.
You have to understand mate that, as with all good dogging locations of the past, new single males who arent really doggers, just single blokes wanting a quick thrill without the patience needed in actual real dogging, come along and spoil it for the people who are really into it.
News headlines about carpark orgies and casual kinky sex have made dogging something of a public phenomenon when really it was always between discreet couples with a voyeuristic nature and guys who nobody really knew were into it. These guys are out in all weathers and at all times of the night and follow unwritten dogging etiquette and every now and again get rewarded for such by having a good meet up.
Now I'm not being funny here but see if from their side of the fence, do you really think they are going to give up on their well guarded, good dogging sites that have remained such because only people really into it will get to know about such places?
Try the more well known sites listed on the site under the dogging section first an see where you go from there, it's pretty unlikely people will start giving you good locations straight off the bat.