Why not all of those who are on there as well form our own sub group or whatever they are. Okay some may well say its childish but hey, growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional as a friend of mine said!!
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Quote by jaymar
I don't know the reason why you went away from SH Snow, but obviously you did and so do others for a while or forever. For those who come back yes there are new people but let's be honest if everything was to always stay the same, what a boring world we would live in?
It's nice to see you back and my thoughts are just chill out and enjoy the banter with the new faces because you cannot live in the past nor bring the 'oldies' back again.
Chin up we're ok really
Wow I came across as a real Grumpy old man didn't I :laugh above: I'm not honest, enjoy the same things as most other folk.
Although I have a confession to both you and Freckledbird later.. Anyhow I do like people and am happy with new people heck I sped most of everyday with em that wasn't what I meant but enough of that I'll talk to most anyone so see, you have a convert 
oh the confession, oh yes, ............. okay, but remember that inside I'm a really nice person so my friends, (yes I do have them,) say, it's just that... well... I love Marmite !! :wink: bye xxSnowhawk ;-)
Quote by Freckledbird
Hi Folks,
Am I alone in thinking that those now using the site have changed and in so doing, have somehow changed the background ethos!
on my return to SH, I found that many of the regulars in the chat rooms had moved onand new individuals/couples had joined :welcome:
Somehow however the mood and behaviour in the rooms had also changed, the banter was, for the most part, gone, People were and are far less welcomingand in many rooms you're lucky if you received any response to your initial greeeting :cry:
This weekend I've witness some really rude, cruel and pure nasty behaviour against some members in the rooms and although they soon found supportIt just moved to another room! I wouldn't presume to speak for everyone or indeed anyone other than my self but some of the issues mentioned, can be found on many of the other chat sites. And this really is my point :idea: , SH appears to be in danger of losing it's uniqueness, the reason many of us first 'Joined up' ! and so becoming like so many other chat sites. C'mon Moderators start to get our site back from the boorish loud and aggressive ones (yes. I know that they too have their point and rights)who are beginning to change the very culture of Swinging Heaven. Sorry to go on so long on a Sunday
Snowhawk ;-)
Of course things have changed - they do, in every aspect of life. People move on, people have breaks then return. SH isn't unique; I don't think it claims to be though. If you've witnessed abuse, report it via the appropriate channels and I'm sure it will be dealt with.
I obviously failed to get my point across accurately, You're right that things change, and for the better in many cases. What I tried to say was that the chatrooms now seem alot less friendly places than in the past. Less welcoming and friendly. The abuse I spoke of, was reported by apparently, a number of people. So was the abuse at one of the people , well two actually, on cam. Obviously one doesn't expect to go into a room and have everyone greet them unless well known but time was that if you said 'Hi' or whatever people, at least some would answer. That wasn't what I saw or experienced over the last couple of days full rooms down to one other occupant silence. SH provides status signs if people are engaged but obviously they're not that widely used. anyway enough of the beefing. By the way I was away from SH simply thru pressure of work and eating & sleeping during my off times.
Cheers now
Snowhawk ;-)
Hi Folks,
Am I alone in thinking that those now using the site have changed and in so doing, have somehow changed the background ethos!
on my return to SH, I found that many of the regulars in the chat rooms had moved on and new individuals/couples had joined :welcome:
Somehow however the mood and behaviour in the rooms had also changed, the banter was, for the most part, gone, People were and are far less welcoming and in many rooms you're lucky if you received any response to your initial greeeting :cry:
This weekend I've witness some really rude, cruel and pure nasty behaviour against some members in the rooms and although they soon found support It just moved to another room! I wouldn't presume to speak for everyone or indeed anyone other than my self but some of the issues mentioned, can be found on many of the other chat sites. And this really is my point :idea: , SH appears to be in danger of losing it's uniqueness, the reason many of us first 'Joined up' ! and so becoming like so many other chat sites. C'mon Moderators start to get our site back from the boorish loud and aggressive ones (yes. I know that they too have their point and rights)who are beginning to change the very culture of Swinging Heaven. Sorry to go on so long on a Sunday
Snowhawk ;-)
Am I alone in thinking that those now using the site have changed and in so doing, have somehow changed the background ethos!
on my return to SH, I found that many of the regulars in the chat rooms had moved on
and new individuals/couples had joined :welcome: Somehow however the mood and behaviour in the rooms had also changed, the banter was, for the most part, gone, People were and are far less welcoming
and in many rooms you're lucky if you received any response to your initial greeeting :cry: This weekend I've witness some really rude, cruel and pure nasty behaviour against some members in the rooms and although they soon found support
It just moved to another room! I wouldn't presume to speak for everyone or indeed anyone other than my self but some of the issues mentioned, can be found on many of the other chat sites. And this really is my point :idea: , SH appears to be in danger of losing it's uniqueness, the reason many of us first 'Joined up' ! and so becoming like so many other chat sites. C'mon Moderators start to get our site back from the boorish loud and aggressive ones (yes. I know that they too have their point and rights)who are beginning to change the very culture of Swinging Heaven. Sorry to go on so long on a Sunday Snowhawk ;-)
Quote by Jas-TimI didn't know he'd died, He was also one of my favourite authors, who's books accompanied me on holidays, Michael Morecock being another a sad loss indeed.
Well today my life became a sadder place :cry:
My favourite author David Gemmell has died aged 57.
I've learnt a lot from his books about some of the most basic of feelings, and his characters always mean something to me.
He really is worth reading.
Sad Jas
XXX
Snowhawk
Quote by winchwench
Mistress. Ever thought about that word? Or more to the point, why it has no male equivalent? ( I hope- or now I look like a complete twat!)
So, I've scratched my head long enough, and it's now time to let the creative geniuses that linger within to have a shot.
Your mission, should you chose to accept it, is to create a word to describe the male equivalent of a mistress.............good luck!
I just know I'm gonna regret this but.........'Master' ?
A big boy made me do it then ran away honest!!!
Snowhawk
There are very few who know about my playful side. Am I lying to the others or just being private? Am I hurting them by not telling them? Do I have to? Should I have to?
I guess my questions to the floor are when is it a secret? When is it just privacy? When is it lying? And the hardest of all - what do you use as your guide to decide when is it wrong?
I would say;
If it's about you it's privacy. If it's about others it's secret and if you know it ain't true it's lying! As for 'when is it wrong?' Only your gut feeling can tell you that. But as I guide , if you have to ask yourself 'Is this wrong?' It may well be. Hope that helps some
Snowhawk
I guess my questions to the floor are when is it a secret? When is it just privacy? When is it lying? And the hardest of all - what do you use as your guide to decide when is it wrong?
I would say;
If it's about you it's privacy. If it's about others it's secret and if you know it ain't true it's lying! As for 'when is it wrong?' Only your gut feeling can tell you that. But as I guide , if you have to ask yourself 'Is this wrong?' It may well be. Hope that helps some
Snowhawk
Quote by PoloLady
Hello everyone
I just wanted to say hello to all of you lovely people and give you all a great big sloppy snog and cuddly hug for being so darn great
I'm not sure if we've spoken at all pololady, But Can I include myself in your offer. I kinda need some fluffiness right now.
Many thanks,
Snowhawk
Quote by Valton
Sometime ago Sgt Bilko opened chat rooms designed for newbies to have a learning experience.
Are these still running on any regular timetable basis? If not, is there any chance of some trustworthy and sane member resurrecting them?
(OK--I know that sane is asking a bit much)
That actually seems like a sound idea. Many newbies (us included) are still fairly shy about opening up, and not sure of the do's and don't that everyone else just seems to know....
Snowhawk
Only when the last tree has died and the last river been poisoned and the last fish been caught will we realise we cannot eat money.
I think I would need to think twice, then maybe some more on just how strong your friendship is. Should this go pearship, you will almost certainly be in danger of losing your friend.
Snowhawk
Only when the last tree has died and the last river been poisoned and the last fish been caught will we realise we cannot eat money.
Snowhawk
Only when the last tree has died and the last river been poisoned and the last fish been caught will we realise we cannot eat money.
Quote by wencra
hi all
seem to be the same probs coming up time and time again, pics off centre, small chat/cams can't see who's viewing your cam, can't check your own profile/pics or see your own cam, think cam icons on name in room a better idea than list on left,
know its new and needs fine tuning but when is that going to happen most of the probs have been reported from the start and are still there,
but hey just my opinion
am sure we'll all get used to it when it kicks in fully if probs sorted lol
I agree. We all get 'comfortable with what we're used to and resent
having to change from it. Yes there have been problems but those 'up there' are doing their best to get em sorted out and improve the service for all of us who use it. So more power to ya team! don't let our gripes, moans n groans get yer down! When it's built we will come!! Snowhawk
Good Idea winch wench!!
May I ask for a big-up for the Snow half of snowhawk She's put up with my weird and wonderful ways, mostly uncomplainingly for 27 yrs. Often overlooked and taken for granted by me and the chicks. All of us are aware however that none of us would be where we are or as we are withoiut her tireless efforts on our ungrateful behalfs. So thanks to you Snow for being there and being you. Our world would be a far less happy place if you weren't in it I love You
Snowhawk
Snow certified as a real sexy smasher by Hawk !!
May I ask for a big-up for the Snow half of snowhawk She's put up with my weird and wonderful ways, mostly uncomplainingly for 27 yrs. Often overlooked and taken for granted by me and the chicks. All of us are aware however that none of us would be where we are or as we are withoiut her tireless efforts on our ungrateful behalfs. So thanks to you Snow for being there and being you. Our world would be a far less happy place if you weren't in it I love You
Snowhawk
Snow certified as a real sexy smasher by Hawk !!
Hi! Folks,
Quick query here.
Why is it that sometimes when you're in a room, you suddenly wind up in a greyed out 'empty' room. when you try to leave you can't get back cos you're not authorised so you wait five, start again and wind up back in the same grey space just in time to start the process over again?
Snowhawk
Certified for Nuthin' by nobody !!
Quick query here.
Why is it that sometimes when you're in a room, you suddenly wind up in a greyed out 'empty' room. when you try to leave you can't get back cos you're not authorised so you wait five, start again and wind up back in the same grey space just in time to start the process over again?
Snowhawk
Certified for Nuthin' by nobody !!
Hi folks and thank you for the helpful, and otherwise comments.
Right lets start again.
When I first tried the site on my return I got, on trying to access my profile, or chatroom redirected to the page shown below inclusive of the graphics not shown below. Hence my original post. since posting, returning and reading your comments I find that I can now access my profile as one of those commenting said I would be able to. However I cannot enter any chatrooms. Having tried a number of times I keep being redirected to the 'Upgrade membership' page shown below. Also I cannot enter the full gallery either. It is these differences that led me to believe changes had occurred. If they haven't whoopee!! However, could someone please advise me what to do next to be able to enjoy the chatrooms etc. as previously before myfestive break? advice gratefully received.
Thank you in anticipation once more.
Snowhawk
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Right lets start again.
When I first tried the site on my return I got, on trying to access my profile, or chatroom redirected to the page shown below inclusive of the graphics not shown below. Hence my original post. since posting, returning and reading your comments I find that I can now access my profile as one of those commenting said I would be able to. However I cannot enter any chatrooms. Having tried a number of times I keep being redirected to the 'Upgrade membership' page shown below. Also I cannot enter the full gallery either. It is these differences that led me to believe changes had occurred. If they haven't whoopee!! However, could someone please advise me what to do next to be able to enjoy the chatrooms etc. as previously before myfestive break? advice gratefully received.
Thank you in anticipation once more.
Snowhawk
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Hi Heaven folk,
As I suspect has been the case for many site members, over the holiday period I have only maintained minimal contact with Swinging Heaven. On returning I find that much has changed!
The concept of 'Premium Member' has arrived. Not being one I find that a number of the facilities I enjoyed in the past have now beeen denied me. No more video chatrooms or editing profile and I suspect more.
Were the changes publicized and I've just missed them? I honestly cannot recall having seen or read anything about it other than the work on the new video rooms.
Really, I guess my main question is what, as I suppose a sort of undermember, can I still have access to?
I realise I can of course upgrade and shall obviously consider this although this would nullify my main perception of this site.
That being that whilst all else sought to make apparently increasing amounts of money from money from its members, Swinging Heaven, remained a 'users' site not a comercial enterprise as so many specific sites have become. Originally I paid for the 'extras' for a short period but this appears to be a further step up the commercial ladder. That isn't my point however. Could one of the, I suppose they constitute the Board or management, please enlighten me as to what I can look forward to still being able to receive.
Many thanks in anticipation,
Snowhawk :cry:
As I suspect has been the case for many site members, over the holiday period I have only maintained minimal contact with Swinging Heaven. On returning I find that much has changed!
The concept of 'Premium Member' has arrived. Not being one I find that a number of the facilities I enjoyed in the past have now beeen denied me. No more video chatrooms or editing profile and I suspect more.
Were the changes publicized and I've just missed them? I honestly cannot recall having seen or read anything about it other than the work on the new video rooms.
Really, I guess my main question is what, as I suppose a sort of undermember, can I still have access to?
I realise I can of course upgrade and shall obviously consider this although this would nullify my main perception of this site.
That being that whilst all else sought to make apparently increasing amounts of money from money from its members, Swinging Heaven, remained a 'users' site not a comercial enterprise as so many specific sites have become. Originally I paid for the 'extras' for a short period but this appears to be a further step up the commercial ladder. That isn't my point however. Could one of the, I suppose they constitute the Board or management, please enlighten me as to what I can look forward to still being able to receive.
Many thanks in anticipation,
Snowhawk :cry:
Quote by Abilene
Ok, so is it bad that I am actually considering putting an ad in the Meets forum looking for someone to wine and dine me on New Years Eve.
Is it bad that I want to be so blunt about wanting to be treated to a good old fashioned date ... i.e. nice restaurant, wine after, hold the doors open blah blah ... the whole nine yards.
Bottom line is New Years Eve is nearly here and I do NOT want to be sitting home getting all maudlin about the fact that I am here and single. Yes, I love being single but it does get a little hard around the holidays.
Anyway, I guess I want to know ... would it be in bad taste to do it and there be no up front promises of any 'action'. Not saying there wouldn't be but don't want to mislead and promise it.
Your thoughts? ( and not too much piss taking lol )
Abi, if I lived nearer I'd be both privillaged and yes, honored to offer to be your date. Having sneeked alook at your Pics I truely cannot for the life of me see why you don't have someone to spend the time with already! anyway the best of luck
Snowhawk
Quote by chashoniton
This is a little sad for a Saturday night, but I'm feeling sad and need cheering up...
Chas has disappeared...
so I'm sad, mad,confused and crazy!
At home, kids in bed, glass of wine, but STILL FED UP!
Can you cheer me up please????
And you don't have to go for the obvious.................
Thanks (in advance).
x
If you and Sassy both think out at the world as a whole, and all the injustice that is so prevelent in it at the moment. I'm sure that you will both appreciate and re-evaluate your feelings and realise just how many friends, okay maybe mainly virtual on this site, that you have routin' for you both and, Like me thinking, I wish I could do something, no matter how small so that they both value themselves and see a glimmer that makes them feel more cheerful tonight and go to sleep looking forward to tomorrow and the pleasures that it will bring for you both. Go on, give it a try, for me
xxSnowhawk
As a spokesperson for the League against the persecution of Squirrels in the UK. I must applaude your bringing this case to the notice of the general public and highlighting the social injustice against squirrels apparently encouraged by the Government, within the Unitied Kingdom.
My organisation proposes the eviction of all Grey squirrels back to the USA, their homeland, thus allowing them to become the problem of the United States, whilst allowing our own red squirrels room to multiply and expand thus regaining their rightful place in society inthe United Kingdom.
Snowhawk
My organisation proposes the eviction of all Grey squirrels back to the USA, their homeland, thus allowing them to become the problem of the United States, whilst allowing our own red squirrels room to multiply and expand thus regaining their rightful place in society inthe United Kingdom.
Snowhawk
Quote by Kiss
I will slant this from a bi-female angle as that's how the question was posed.
I think that it could also be that the term bisexual covers a lot more 'areas' than is used to and is now more flexible. I have noticed that when a woman says she is 'bisexual' you can no longer be sure that she actually enjoys sex with other women, because she may only be happy just to kiss other women, or be in an MFF threesome with little contact, allow women to touch her and give nothing in return etc etc.
Back in my yoof I found that words like bisexual/gay etc were literal terms, but I think the lines of sexuality are becoming more blurred all the time.
V. Good points thanks.
Snowhawk
Quote by Sassy-Seren
Hi Snowhawk
As one of the ladies in question ( and how glad am I the numbers are on the increase :twisted: ) I think it's because it's not so easy to go to meet bi fems outside the swinging world unless you frequent gay bars, which I don't. Swingers, in general, are open minded about sex and sexual orientations whereas it would''t be so easy for me to nip down to the local and shout 'any fems fancy a shag?'. Here, on the other hand, shout that in the Cafe or LMU and you'd be in the firing line of a stampede ( hopefully
It was the perfect place for me to come to get advice, chat to like minded bi fems, meet up and have fun exploring my sexuality without any fear of recrimination from the vanilla world. I don't think it's anything to do with men getting it wrong but for me, I could go anywhere to get a bloke if I wanted one but only this sort of site for bi fems.
Well whilst I doubt think we've actually chatted here or in the chatroom I for one am glad you do and thanks for the answer
snowhawk
G'Day forum folk,
Whilst I have absolutely no axe to grind whatsoever, embracing nearly all parts of the sexual spectrum, I wonder if anyone else has noticed that the number of Bi or Bi curious ladies on SH appears to be getting bigger.
In the couple of years since I've been visiting, I've noticed a substancial increase in Bi Fem numbers. My interest in this issue is quite simply why?
Is it that more Bi fems feel more comfortable to disclose their preferrences. Alternatively, is it that there are now more Bifems about, or is it that us fella are going wrong somewhere along the line,forcing girls to experiment and try other avenues to pleasure? If that is the case, where are we going wrong?
Come ladies! This is your opportunity to put us lads straight on a few things and satisfy my curiosity as well.
I look forward to beginning an interesting, informative and I dare say lively at times, debate.
Snowhawk
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Whilst I have absolutely no axe to grind whatsoever, embracing nearly all parts of the sexual spectrum, I wonder if anyone else has noticed that the number of Bi or Bi curious ladies on SH appears to be getting bigger.
In the couple of years since I've been visiting, I've noticed a substancial increase in Bi Fem numbers. My interest in this issue is quite simply why?
Is it that more Bi fems feel more comfortable to disclose their preferrences. Alternatively, is it that there are now more Bifems about, or is it that us fella are going wrong somewhere along the line,forcing girls to experiment and try other avenues to pleasure? If that is the case, where are we going wrong?
Come ladies! This is your opportunity to put us lads straight on a few things and satisfy my curiosity as well.
I look forward to beginning an interesting, informative and I dare say lively at times, debate.
Snowhawk
Certified by nobody for nuthin'
Quote by poshkate
I am as saddened by the events of a year ago as everyone else. Two minutes silence would seem the least we could do to remember the suffering of the dead and injured.
The British Medical Journal “The Lancet†has estimated that 100,000 civilians have lost their lives in Iraq since the start of the war; however I doubt that anyone will give them a second thought today.
Stormwalker
Actually, I did, and the dead and brutalised in Darfur , Afganistan and the drought hit areas of the world.
Snowhawk.
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i promised myself that i'd stay away from this thread but i seem to keep being drawn to it.......
whilst not drawing away from those who lost their lives a year ago and the effect it had on many others......i believe that whenever u stop for silence to remember people its not just for the event of that day but to remember everyone who has lost their lives due to either war or terrorism......to me, the silence today was not just for those that lost their lives a year ago but for everyone the world over who has been killed and for the familys of the desceased as well.......whilst it may be contreversial i think also that thoughts should go out to the families of the perpetrators as they try to come to terms with what their own relative has done at the same time as dealing with their loss........
You and I seem to be on the same wavelength Posh, an excellent response if I may say so.
Snowhawk
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