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PJandS
Over 90 days ago
Bisexual Male, 51
Bisexual Female, 60
0 miles · Surrey

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Quote by sword-stileto
oops redface I should really read thing properly sad but the questions still the same can you say the lady in question had her mind 100% on driving between the sets of lights?.

No idea. Probably not. There are many distractions when you are driving a car, but her attentiveness at the wheel is on a different *planet* compared to some. Maybe even the majority.
I recall a driver who not only entered the congestion charge zone for no reason, but then incurred a reasonably hefty fine for failing to pay because she was so distracted by the prospect of sex at the end of her journey...
... okay, so the failure to pay was due to the sex itself, rather than the prospect, but the wrong turning was definitely due to a wandering dirty mind.
I've encountered enough seriously good drivers, including the traffic light blowjob girl, to know that I'm rubbish (and merely being aware of this fact probably makes me less rubbish than many - at least I have the decency to defer to someone of greater ability, thus keeping myself off the road biggrin ).
Point is, the driver is not a fool - she has a well developed sense of self-preservation and the skills to serve it (semi-interestingly, one of the skills drummed into her was a thorough awareness of her surroundings at traffic lights, on the basis that a failure to observe and prepare could be unusually fatal). The activity was unquestionably dangerous, but not to any significant extent, and certainly not with regard to other road users - if she'd thought the risk was excessive, she wouldn't have done it, and knowing her as well as I do, I completely trust her ability to judge.
PJ.
Quote by sword-stileto
We all think we are the best drivers in the world in normal conditions .

Pass. I'm rubbish. That's why I let other people do it... biggrin
PJ.
Quote by flower411
Lighten up !!! I thought it was funny until you started claiming it wasn`t dangerous ! rolleyes

Don't twist what I said. I've never claimed it wasn't dangerous. Many things are dangerous. My previous post even highlighted the most obvious risk. But to suggest that we were endangering the lives of innocent little children, or indeed the safety of any other road user, is arrant nonsense.
I thought it was funny. I still do. Hence the light-hearted tone of my first two contributions to this thread. But if others feel the need to disperse the humour and make silly accusations...
PJ.
Quote by helnheaven
It may have felt like great fun at the time and Im all for having fun. However, an offence was committed and agree with Sassy, bloody dangerous. Ok so you were in slow moving traffic

Err, no - the traffic, and our car, were stationary at all times. Big difference.
and lights are on red but just supposing, in all the uphoria

There wasn't much of that, for obvious reasons...
some child came running out between the cars, as children do and you and your girlfriend didnt notice, then what???

Then what, what? The car isn't moving, the handbrake is on, the driver is state trained to a standard above that of Police pursuit drivers, and particularly bearing in mind what we were doing, I've got my eyes peeled throughout.
I have no doubt it was illegal, as are a number of other activities discussed on this site. I probably break the law every day, and I doubt it was the most illegal thing we did on that particular day - I won't stress.
As ever, the biggest risk was to those in the vehicle. In this case, probably from being rear-ended by something big and heavy if we didn't move off reasonably promptly. Given that we didn't get a single "Marylebone Minute" hurry-up from those behind, it's reasonable to assume we had that one covered.
As to your comment about children - such remarks illustrate that you're in no position to question my intelligence.
PJ.
Quote by Sassy-Seren
I just call that fucking dangerous! :shock:

Why?
... the car wasn't actually moving at the time, hence the bit about the traffic lights. I got very good at tapping her on the head and saying, "green light..." biggrin
PJ.
Quote by Freckledbird
Oh, and Godwin's Law should now be invoked at the mention of Hitler.

Heh. Beat me to it... smile
To quote, "opinions are like arseholes..."
PJ - philosophical.
Quote by Sassy-Seren
I call it damn horny :twisted:

So what is getting a blow-job along the length of the Marylebone Road and beyond?
... I was in the passenger seat. She was driving. There are a lot of traffic lights along the Marylebone Road. Thankfully, most of them were red that day... smile
The girl in the car behind figured out what we were doing, and you could see her trying to convince her partner, who wouldn't believe it... :)
PJ.
Quote by blueandpink
For me I can easily fancy men but women I find I am much much fussier.

I'm exactly the same - I find it far easier to fancy women than men, but there's no doubt that I *seriously* fancy some men. Just not very many of 'em... *Sigh*
To have a one on one with another female without men there, scares the hell outta me

Whereas I'm the exact opposite - for the most part, I prefer sex with another man to be a men-only affair, with no women involved. It's nice to concentrate on the masculine aspects of my sexuality. I don't mind having sex with a man in front of women, particularly not if I know they're going to enjoy watching - the idea of me with another man drives my girlfriend
nuts! In a good way... cool
There's no way that I'm bi-curious - I'm bisexual, no doubt. But I see guys with 'bi-curious' on their profile who I'd consider way more advanced in their experience and tastes than me. *Shrug*
PJ.
PS: Intellient, nice, cute(-ish), shy, somewhat lonely bi-guy here looking for similar who looks hot in Speedos and is looking for an ongoing relationship, ifyouhappentobeinterestedatallpossibly... wink
... I really must put up my own bi-guy profile at some point. smile
Quote by picoNblue
A very good question, but yes I think they can.
Meeting others through the swinging scene for recreational sex and enjoying the social side of the lifestyle I think differentiates from someone who trawls pubs/clubs in search of one night stands.
You are either on the scene or you're not, whether couple or single.

I think being a swinger means having a particular attitude towards sex and relationships. Many vanillas can't get their head around the stuff we understand and deal with routinely and without difficulty. Although it has much more relevance when you are with someone, you don't lose a swingers attitude to sex just because you happen to be single.
PJ.
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The most scary bill going through parliment at the moment is the one that allows bailiffs to force thier way into your home.

If it means thatyou are able to recover money owed to you, why not. Bailiffs act as 'Court Officers'. Why not let them do their job.
"Court Officer" means bugger all. They're barely more than another Joe in the street, which is worth remembering if you ever have to deal with one.
As someone who's had to deal with a very large bailiff trying to illegally force his way into the home of a disabled, mentally ill woman (shouldering the door from outside, while she had her back against it from within), I would outlaw the lot of 'em. Even more so when I looked at the paperwork and discovered that he was only there because the utility company concerned had lied to the court, claiming she had agreed to, and then defaulted on a ridiculous repayment schedule, just so they could put the bailiff on her door, because they knew she was so poor that seizing her property was going to be the only way they were going to get their money.
Many bailiffs are barely legalised thieves. Some are just thieves. The industry needs a radical overhaul before they get any more power. The idea of the thug I've just described being able to force his way legally into that woman's home defies belief! It would probably have killed her.
Bring back debtor's prison.

Back in the real world...
PJ.

it is an interesting topic and raises several subjects........

Indeed. And the chance of reasoned debate? Hmm... sad
Quote by Fun Scottish Couple
Very interesting i agree but also stupid especially coming from a chief constable

Err, why? The Police are responsible for enforcing the law. To my mind he appears to be very well placed to comment.
It's either a criminal offence or its not regardless of age, race, religion, blah blah

The law already differentiates. Under the age of 13, it's , regardless of other factors. At the age of 13 and above, and with the consent of the child, the offence is unlawful sexual intercourse, for which the penalties are less severe.
and for someone high up in the police ranks to come out with that is very worring indead, If that came from an MP he or she would be forced to resign.

Which says more about the state of British politics, and probably British public debate, than it does about remarks made by Policemen, politicians, or anyone else...
Take care,
PJ - who finds threads like this rather depressing. Reductio ad , anyone? smile
Quote by Pete_sw
i can never tell if a womans flirting with me or wants me untill after they have left and all my mates are pissing them selves with laughter. redface :cry:

been there done that rolleyes
It's a bloke thing.
Having a girlfriend who is bisexual, a swinger, and a psychology graduate, I tend to get reminded of this fact whenever I fail to spot a girlie making eyes at me. In a, "She was hot for you!"
"Who?"
"Her!"
"Was she?"
"YES! Too late now!"
... kinda way. But then, it has been a general complaint that, for a woman to get my attention, she needs to apply brick to forehead. Or at least grab me by the throat and say, "Oi! Fancy a shag?" biggrin
I really must learn to be more girlie... :D
Take care,
PJ - who actually really enjoys flirting... smile
Quote by CarrieAnn
I had such a giggle on my way home this evening and thought I'd share it with you.

My other 'alf was driving home along the M4 from Bristol some time ago, travelling at her usual pace of *mumble* mph. She passes a Police van. The van accelerates to well above the limit and passes her. In time, she re-passes it. Once again it passes her, and this time the blue lights come on and she's signalled to pull over.
"Bollocks", she thinks. A copper gets out of the van and walks up to the car.
"Don't worry love - we're not going to nick you. I was really impressed by your driving, can I have your phone number?"
She was not pleased. She wasn't a copper, but she did used to have a warrant card, and she did say that was the only time since she'd relinquished it that she *really* wished she still had it - she could've whipped it out and made the officer's day in a manner he *really* wasn't expecting...
... to say nothing of probably putting him back on civvy street.
All my amusing trips home involve getting a blowjob as we drive through London - perhaps I just lead a rather sheltered life. smile
Take care,
PJ.
Quote by H-x
Haven't decided yet, need to get off my arse and sort a hotel out.

biggrin
Those nice folks at Erotica gave us a pair of free tickets for the Sunday. Wasn't that nice of 'em... cool
Take care,
PJ.
Quote by sheddy
So come on fess up what piles of crap did the rest of you potter around in during your youth lol

White (well, it was white once) Ford Sierra with a rust hole you could stick your fist through in the offside front wing...
But my girlfriends first car was an E-Type Jag. Which was nice... smile
These days we potter around in a Fake Snake, which can be heard three streets away. Which is also nice... :)
Take care,
PJ.
Quote by lavabubble
Anyway, I hope this helps, any further info you need just ask!

Yay! Loads of useful stuff. I've passed it onto my g/f for our mutual consideration. Many thanks...
Lava x
Professor in Dildology :twisted:

Hehe. You ain't kiddin' smile
Take care,
PJ.
Quote by banlwales
PJandS, your avatar is very appealing. Fancy getting all excited and swapping guitar photos...??
innocent

Pervert!
... oh, okay then. smile
Take care,
PJ.
Quote by Kiss_Me
wave

:wave:
I my opinion this place has the best selection:

smile

Is this a personal recommendation? Only, when my girlfriend said "strap-on", I said, "B 'n' H..."
... well, no, okay, I said some other things first, not repeatable on a respectable swinging website such as this one, but after we'd got that out of the way, we looked, dribbled, counted our pennies, and cried. And that's why we haven't bought yet - price. The large selection appeals, but harness plus a couple of dildos is, err, *ouch!*
... and that's not just a lack of lube talking. :)
Take care,
PJ.
Quote by H-x
No idea.
Let me know when the road test is though wont you?

Of course. Sooner, rather than later, one hopes. Your input will be most appreciated... smile
kiss
H.x

Take care, :)
PJ.
Quote by fabio grooverider
damn.....was just about to tell him he was wrong and put up the schedules... and you all beat me to it!!!! smile

:)
anyway... off to watch some proper motorsport... the Dutch motorcycle TT.......

Pffff! :)
mmmmmm..........the things i could do with suzi perry!!!!

Join the queue. Just behind me and my girlfriend... :)
PJ - who's girlfriend used to be a biker babe, complete with large sports bike, lots of tight leather and a fair few broken bones... :)
Quote by little bighorn
Just got me TV guide,goes to look up what time the Grand Prix is on tomorrow,
expecting it to be on after the footy (Canada I think are 5 hours behind us)
Shock,Horror,only the bloody highlights are on about midnight
Can anyone shed any light on this f---ing injustice

To quote
Canadian GP on ITV
Live qualifying: Saturday 24 June 1800-1930 ITV4
Qualifying: Sunday 25 June 0000-0145 ITV1
Live race: Sunday 25 June 1700-1950 ITV1
Live race: Sunday 25 June 1800-2000 ITV4
Highlights: Monday 26 June 0035-0135 ITV1
Highlights: Tuesday 27 June 0410-0505 ITV4
I'm blessed with digi TV, so I even get the qually live... smile
... sorry. ;-)
I think ITV gets given a sore bottom by Bernie if they don't show the race live. I'm sure when they first got the rights they were required to show qually live too, but they never did for rounds like Canada, because the time difference mean it would've cut right across Saturday evening prime-time. Their get-out these days could be showing it on one of their digital channels, but I don't recall if they existed when they first got the rights...
.. anyway, I remember being in a huff about not getting live qually, and thus having to avoid the news on every other channel so I didn't get to hear who was on pole proir to the delayed broadcast. Sad man that I am... :)
Take care,
PJ - looking forward to the Festival Of Speed (three day tickets this year! :) ).
My girlfriend and I are looking for personal recommendations, from both ends, for a good quality strap-on for both vaginal and anal penetration.
To add a little bit of complexity to our requirements, we'd like something that also has a dildo or vibrator that goes into the wearer's vagina, so she can be stimulated while she's fucking the other person.
Various friends have recommened different brands, but after a bit of web-surfing and a tour of the sex shops of London, we've yet to encounter something that satisfies our requirements, looks sturdy enough to last, and doen't require a second mortgage to purchase.
My girlfriend's main concern is over the strength and fit of the harness, having had previous experience of strap-ons that were not really up to the task of energetic fucking. Having had an over-enthusiastic (but very cute!), girl try to ram a too-large strap-on up my arse, with predicatably painfull consequences, I'm interested in something that has interchangeable dildos, so she can fuck me pleasureably with something not too broad, but still have something of a suitable size to please her female partners.
Any suggestions from the strap-on fans on SH?
Thanks,
PJ.
Scarlet and I are thinking of visiting/joining a nudist club somewhere in Surrey (Weybridge/Leatherhead area). The primary reason for doing so is the fact that we only have access to an open, communal garden, so nowhere where we can enjoy the coming warmer weather naked. Membership seems a little steep for us right now, so we may have to restrict ourselves to swims etc for the time being, but...
However, being not-particularly-hardcore swingers, we also have a secondary interest in the potential for meeting others in a liberated, but not overtly sexual environment - if we wanted a swing club, we'd go to one...
I've been looking through the websites of several local clubs, and they all seem to share the same rather stuffy, overtly anti-sexual attitude, which is fair enough for representatives of a family activity seeking wider social acceptance, but it doesn't always reflect the total reality of the club.
Are there any Surrey nudists reading this who can comment on the prevailing atmosphere of the various clubs in the area? I have friends who go to nudist resorts abroad specifically for sex, but does the prevailing attitude in the UK make pulling like-minded couples a complete non-starter? Does anyone find UK clubs to be an enjoyable and successful way of meeting other swingers, or should we forget about the sex and just enjoy the sunshine? :-)
Thanks for your advice,
Take care,
PJ.
I'm looking for other guys interested in surfing hetro porn and jerking-off, to exchange explicit e-mails. My tastes include amateur and PVC/fetish. Things may go further if we 'click', but don't consider this to be an inevitable progression.
I'm on SH as one half of a couple. I have my bisexual girlfriend's full encouragement and support in furthering my activities with other men, but it is extremely unlikely she will play any part - this is strictly men only.
Not everyone will receive replies. You need to be functionaly literate and reasonably intelligent. Chatty, fun. No cock pics. As far as e-mail goes, I don't care what you look like so long as you can make me hard. If you think you'd like to move on to a meeting in the future, then you need to be slim, under 35 and without the need for a paper bag... smile
Drop me a PM and we'll see where we go.
Take care,
PJ.
Quote by Alexandra
Being a member of a swinging site does not mean that you always have to throw the normal rules of common decency and repect for others.

Amen to that!
Being one half of a couple, I get to witness her reaction when she gets sent unsolicited cock shots. Hmm - most educational... smile
Not that she objects to cock shots per-se - but as an introduction? Get real! :)
Take care,
PJ
Quote by hisandhers
:welcome: hope you enjoy

Thank you. And thanks to everyone else who has welcomed us - it feels good already... biggrin
Take care,
PJ.
Quote by redpantherman
Rubber for me... followed by boots!!! :twisted:

Ahh yes - retifism, or however you spell it - that'll be my girlfriend's number one kink. Red knee-boots, plastic pants, miniskirt, PVC raincoat...
... err, 'scuse me, I'm just going to tap my girlfriend on the shoulder. And not with my hand... biggrin
Take care.
PJ.
Quote by natandh
hello and welcome to the forum, I've not been here long either, and between you and me some of em are a bit loopy - friendly enough though. Have fun

Heh - thanks. Yeah - every community has it's fair share of oddballs - I mean, I'm here... biggrin
... actually, we have had our fair share of weird replies to our advert. An inability or unwillingness to read appears to be a common denominator. Ho-hum - we've met loads of good friends and quality people from other sites, all from forums, so I'm sure the same will be the case with SH...
Take care,
PJ.
I'm not talking about infantalism, or adult babies, or anything like that - just plastic/PVC pants worn against the skin. I thought this was a fairly rare kink, although not so rare that it stops several manufacturers from making a profit from selling pants to likeminded fetishists...
But then a plastic pants fetish was mentioned on a forum on another website, and a number of people stuck their hands up and said, "Yeah, me too!"
So, anyone else on Swinging Heaven share one of my little kinks?
I'm lucky, I've managed to convert my girlfriend to the pleasures of unbacked PVC (like that was difficult - not!), but I've kinda got the impression that it's mainly a gay thing - perhaps that's wrong... confused
Take care,
PJ.